So my church has ask me to do their website (: kinda excited haven't done a project like this in a while

@kryptxy thanks (:

@Letmecode he didn't say what church, this guy might be some kind of a real life Gilfoyle satanist

@TheDevil In all seriousness, prepare for a difficult project. It might be fun and you'll probably have freedom to choose the technologies.

But understand that it is unlikely you will be dealing with people who have a strong grasp of what it is to run a website. When you start asking for content or ask questions about structure, you'll maybe not get the response you need and there will most likely be some political moves too.

Is this site going to be managed by church members (so a CMS)? Or bespoke content that you will control on-going? Are there people who can do the content editing part if they're going that direction?

And are you being paid or are you doing this for free out of your sense of community and trying to improve your church?

I love how programming is pure logic but religion requires you to discard all logical thinking. How people can do both I will never understand.

@LeFlawk It doesn't. But by the same token the church leaders probably won't care what it's built in and I can totally see @TheDevil's point in using it as a real world learning exercise.

@Metalor lots of scientists in the past explained logical approaches to both believing and not believing.

@Metalor If you've never been religious, it can be hard to understand how you might believe it. But the fact is religious people are not at all stupid, illogical or irrational. Some are, but so are some totally non-religious people. Belief is complex and how you're brought up as a child and where you live will have a huge influence.

@CrankyOldDev that's cool, and I understand all that. I was actually Catholic (apparently) until I started to question it when I was a child.

Computer science requires the ability to reason, to question and a logical mind. Just 'turning it off' for religious belief when it suits is lazy and, if I'm honest, weak. You HAVE the ability to question so fucking use it.