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@saucyatom
Been doing that my whole working life. But it gets old soon when I have to change jobs every 3y. Mainly because it's also always mean that I have to change my home.
I just want to enjoy familiar and peaceful life man. But if I stay in the same company for too long, I am gonna get underpaid.
Maybe in the future I will hit a salary ceiling, where the little increase won't justify the trade off of changing employer.
But I don't think it's gonna happen within the next 10 years. -
@cho-uc I was underpaid and almost leaving, my boss couldn't pay more, but we agreed that I can work less hours. Win-win because I still get a lot done, the company doesn't have to pay more, I have enough money and a lot more free time.
If I'd go by hourly salary I could say I'm overpaid now... but the bottom line is good for both sides.
Anyway I just wanted to point out that salary is not the only variable you can negotiate ;) -
@cho-uc that situation sucks but I understand the company. If the market (not the product market but the dev employment market) is low it's fair that they don't go up much. It's then basically for them how much is it worth keeping you versus hiring a new dev. Similarly that it is for you are you willing to give up the stability and extra cost of moving.
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As sad as true :[
I found a budget salary for dev with 4-5 YOE in 2011 in my company, digging through internal old docs.
Assuming 2% increase per year, the 2023 budget salary is now EUR 15k more than what average dev get in my company.
I remember that someone mentioned similar thing in other socmed where he found through internal docs, salary for his position 10 years ago and now are the same, totally neglecting inflation.
On the other hand house/property values has doubled within 10 years.
How can we pressure companies to give us appropriate salary?
When I ask for increase, they will just say no because it's the market rate, but the market rate sucks.
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