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I got attacked by ransomware and was asked for money...
I sent them my salary slip..They removed it from my computer immediately..
I wanna cry.14 -
I got my first job as a programmer... for a salary twice as big as we had at home for four people. I'm f***ing excited!
Wish me luck :)14 -
* Me entering the interview room:
Me: Hello
Interviewer: Hi, You are XYZ right?
Me: Yes, that is me
Interviewer: You know we offer {low_number} as a salary right?
*Me going out of the room7 -
based on true story
> delivered project on time
> giving good performance
> boss noticed
> gives appreciation
> raise in salary
> profit4 -
Hehe, stumbled upon an oldie :-)
struct ComputerContractor
{
double salary;
long lunches;
float jobs;
char unstable;
void work;
int hiring_him_again;
const pain_in_the_arse;
unsigned agreement;
short fuse;
volatile personality;
static progress;
};
/* and there are no unions in sight */3 -
A friend of mine went to her boss and said that she will quit if she won't get 50% salary raise - boss said ok. She told about it her working colleague so he went to the boss and said 50% or I'll quit - boss said cleanup your desk...5
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First rant, so here goes:
def initialize
@rant = 'when the contractor your boss brought in to help, whose weekly rate exceeds your monthly salary, doesn't know the difference between server side and client side technologies.'
end5 -
!rant
We keep ranting about managers, here is something good about mine. He increased my salary a 100% of my current. Which is freaking awesome.
That's all have a good day. ☺️6 -
That sad moment when you realize that your salary is less than other employees, the most sad is you work harder and you have more skills.
Life is not fair.6 -
My non coder friend thinks typing a 1000 line document and coding 1000 line software/app are perfectly equal things and deserves equal salary.20
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!rant
Today is one of many days fellas! Today my coworkers and I will fight again for more salary! Our company is making millions and billions of euros and we won't be gifted for our work!
I hope in your countries you have the same rights to fight for your money. If so, do it!
Sorry for no Dev realated post's!
TL;DR I have me no money
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FYI, you get paid an average of 100k/year working for a business as a dev in switzerland. In india, you'll be looking at an average salary of 5-7k.
Which is less than what you earn in a month in switzerland.
We are so spoiled.16 -
I love it when companies expect you to care about their vision and act like the work is 100x more important than it is.
Oh yes and of course no overtime pay or decent salary that'd be too much!
😒😫🤯3 -
8 hours a day too much for you??!!
My first company has "9.5 planned hours" daily
If the average is found less than the PLANNED HOURS / WEEK, the salary is DEDUCTED accordingly.9 -
"Open Source is life", he tweets.
Gets a job offer from Microsoft.
Starts salary negotiation without thinking twice. #irony24 -
Was working in small startup with great people on new projects, but for very low salary and shitty conditions.
Changed job to big company with nice salary and great conditions, but people are assholes and have to work on legacy stuff mostly.
Guess you can't have everything.1 -
-When they ask for your current/previous salary in a job interview, tell them that you don't find that relevant or that you don't want to tell. If they insist on you telling your salary, GTFO
- When they are overenthusiasticly telling about all the latest technologies they're using without staying one word about legacy projects, GTFO. It's a trap.
- If you walk trough the developer room(s) and everybody is extremely focused and just programming like a zombie, GTFO.
- If they cannot tell you one single downside of the company, it's probably too good to be true.
That's about everything I can think of at the moment
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I met with the CTO of a local tech company today for a beer, at the recommendation of a friend who currently works at the company. They're looking for Software Engineers and wanted to see if I'd be a good fit.
I'm not actively looking to leave my current job, as I love it there. I was just curious to see what other opportunities were out there.
After the beer, he pretty much offered me the job on the spot for $30,000 to $40,000 more than my current salary, along with benefits. When I asked if there was any sort of technical interview, he said that this meeting was actually the technical interview, and that by the time he had finished his first beer, he could already tell that I would be a good fit. He wants me to meet with his Lead Architect and CEO soon just to see if we all click and then we'll go from there.
The only problem is that I really love my current company. I love the work, the atmosphere, the autonomy, and my coworkers. But an extra $30k to $40k per year is a lot of money.
If everything works out and they give me an official written offer, I'm going to see if my current job will counteroffer. I know my boss would happily counteroffer if he's given authorization from the higher-ups, it's just a matter of exactly how much they're able to counteroffer.19 -
Boss told me he couldn't raise my salary, since according to him, I was already overpaid. Months later they suddenly outsource some positions, including mine. I got 6 months with payment as a parachute. But I also got a new job that pays $15 000 more each year...!
It's nice to have double salary for 6 months...
:)9 -
Congratulations on a great year of continuous stress and being successful. As a reward here's a 50 bucks increase to your salary.
Yeah... great.. fuck you!1 -
If they immediately agreed to your salary expectations, either your expectations were low or their expectations were high (or both).
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I accidentally broke our office’s tablet device. Operations manager said it will be deducted from my salary next month.
Few weeks later, my operations manager breaks his laptops touch screen. I almost did a naked run in excitement.9 -
I was about to ask my manager to roll me out off the project in my company.. it has been 4 years .... Yesterday he came and told me he is going to give me an big fat Raise !3
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Having a call with recruiter (Netherlands) in English:
* he’s late 10mins
- ...
- Now I will ask you some questions, please answer shortly as possible, so it will be easier for me
- Okay
...
- what salary would you like to get in your new job?
- I am thinking about 3000eur
- you mean before taxes?
- no, I mean netto, I want to get that amount already after taxes.
- wow! That’s quite a lot
- well, average in the Netherlands
- definitely no. Where have you learnt that?
- just google
- I don’t believe you, for your age, with that experience for mid-level full- stack php developer - that can’t be true, especially if you don’t speak dutch...
...
- describe yourself in 3 words
- ...confident
- oh, I can see that you’re confident, because of how much salary you want
...
- so you are looking for a new job?
- *in my mind: no motherfucker, I am just having this conversation for no fucking reason...* yes
- ...
- so company I am working with, they working with very complex systems and there’s no much developers that fit their requirements - literally reads everything from job posting - you need to know php, symfony, laravel, have a good agile understanding, be able to work with complex systems...
...
Just to make it clear: I am 22, have 4 years exp, and working with php, javascript, symfony, laravel, reactjs... 36k/y seems ok to me. So either I am wrong and should leave Netherlands, because I can get same amount in my home country and also pay less for rent or this motherfucker is just super dumb.19 -
That feeling when you finally get confirmation that you got the position you've been waiting for at work, AND get a higher salary than you actually asked for. By quite a lot.
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so, I hate my job, they give me many tasks (many of tasks are not on my field) with no trainings and no time, plus a salary that is not that good.
I get angry, so I talked with the boss about leaving yhe company.
Well, our discussion ended up by convincing me to stay with the double of the salary.
So, I accepted the offer.
Don't know whether it's the right decision or not..9 -
This happened in my first internship I was working for a small company. They had a knack of redefining policies at short notices.
The had this shitty time tracking site which was hosted internally.
We were working on client location for 25/30 days so we didn't have access to the time tracking site. And there comes a memo that everybody has to fill the time tracking or their salary will not be credited.
So when we reach office we hear this "News". We thought they would consider people on client location. But then on salary day we don't get any and are called into VP's office for a verbal lashing. We literally had to fight for two weeks for the salary.
Worst Experience Ever2 -
Job title: "Junior Application Developer"
Rest of job description: "4 years experience...Career level: Experienced hire/Professional"
Meaning: "Looking for a senior level programmer willing to work for a junior salary."
I hate job hunting.2 -
Resumes don't mean jack shit!!
I just got off an interview call with a candidate for a hardware role. On paper this guy is absolute gold, having worked for some of the best robotics companies and research groups(in India at least) It took me an hour to realize that the was just spitting out buzz words. So I started asking him some very fundamental questions, like ohms law and such.. high school stuff. But, phrased in real world terms. And it took me another half an hour to realize that the guy is dumber than a sack of peanuts!
I can't believe how easy it is for people to coast by on paths paved by seniors and teammates. By any objective assessment this guy would be lucky to get a job as an electrician and instead I'm wasting my time interviewing him for a six figure salary (well, the Indian equivalent). Gaaah!!7 -
My previous CTO and I had a one-on-one session at the end of his first month. He wanted to have these to ensure everything was going smoothly. We never had another one after this.
Anyway, I'm a very open and honest person, so during this session, I told him some information in confidence. I told him I was looking for another career in an industry I cared more about. This seemed to set off a red flag for him. Originally, he had said this conversation would have stayed between the two of us. To my surprise, the following week, the CEO calls me in for a meeting and offers me a raise in hopes it would make me stick around longer.
I want to clarify that I am very grateful for the increased salary, but also slightly disturbed by the lack of trust. I'm sure someone else who knows they would be leaving the company soon might feel pressured by this situation.
I accepted the raise and met with the founders of my new company that same afternoon to sign a contract. Obviously, my red flag was justified.3 -
Sometimes dirty code is more efficient than clean code.
If features get dropped frequently and requirements change every few days, writing best-practices, tested code is wasted time. Learned that in my first job where I thought the other devs were all bad. Until I realized their bad code pays my salary, and my clean code takes more time to develop.6 -
What would you do?
2 job offers...
Job #1 a big sports betting company as a junior software developer with a salary of 22k plus a yearly bonus of 10%
Also uncapped holidays
Or
Job #2
A small IT company with 2 other developers with a salary of 19.5k working on multiple projects and being instantly promoted to mid level developer, also a signing bonus after 3 months of a high end surface laptop.29 -
Even when you might want to work for a non-profit, don't sell yourself too short. Dear developers, I ask you kindly to never accept these kind of salaries.
That entire range is an insult. Esp. with the dev stack in mind.
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*senior designer*
Last year I had a meeting with the newly hired Senior Graphics Designer.
She was presenting the new design of the company's website with all the features she wants.
After a few minutes, I asked her, did you design it as a responsive website?
"What is that?" She said. I said that the website should display or have atleast a design for mobile view and desktop view.
And she replied, "is that a requirement?"
Talks to myself: how the hell we hire designers like this?
PS, she earns 4x my salary5 -
A competitor of ours is offering a junior dev role. The base/starting salary is equivalent to mine 😖11
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job posts in Algeria:
we need a full stack developer, with 5+ years experience.
we have a great salary ($400/month) 😂6 -
this is an average salary ***Per Year*** of an ultra advanced experienced software engineer who lives in serbia, europe. the sad part is not that this is per year, the sad part is that this is so much money in this country that if you have this salary *Per Year*, you're one of the richest men in the block.
another sad part is, these $15,000 american US dollars are equivalent to 1.5 Million in our currency.
so basically people are so satisfied with this salary because they are basically "millionaires".
now tell me again, how bad is your salary?
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One thing I've noticed about devRant is the ratio of web dev/mobile dev posts to database/architecture/big data dev posts. There's A LOT of you web peeps out there, and not enough data dudes, which I guess justifies my constant demand, salary and lack of competition. Just an observation.9
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I live in zurich switzerland one of the most expensive places to live. And i work as a jack of all trades graphic ux/ui designer/copy writer/marketeer in IT security.
I earn about $3800 a month, but every salery calculator says I should earn above $7000. With a median salery of $9300. But this seems so much money and I suffer from low self esteem. So what should I do? (Quitting is not an option because I like it there)
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Competitive pay
This has happened to me.
When startups post job they write competitive pay in thier posting.
Then later after interview they off er you $20/Hr.! And thier excuse we are a start up so can't offer much.
Then why the hell did you just throw that word of competitive pay in job description. Just because Amazon and other companies have that in thier posting.??
Don't you feel that competitive pay is a misused term. Almost all job posting have this. I don't get it. What is the competing with ?? MC Donald's ?
P.S. I have 2 yrs experience and worked with a startup and a full time job. And I am not arrogant about it. But when you ask me to do something I am good at I demand a good price. I respect my work.4 -
public function recruiters($salary)
{
if($salary == "competitive")
{
return NaN;
} else
{
return "What is the real salary?";
}
}3 -
I just dropped my office laptop !
😨😨😨😨
There is a crack on the corner of the body but the device is Ok !
I am worried they will charge me the whole cost of the laptop ( i.e. 3 months worth salary )19 -
Joined my current company as a Frontend Engineer 2 years back. They recently got funded and started hiring with a higher salary range. Not to brag but I'm pretty good at my job with 6yr of experience but my current salary makes me a lower mid-level engineer now and I'm the only frontend guy here.
So, now they're asking me to take interviews of the applicants who are applying for the senior position.
Why do people have to be such an assholes to the employees, man?3 -
The dilemma of having a job that I love but a salary that just breaks even with living expenses and student loans.2
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Today, I had an interview with a development company that they request all developers to wear suits for work! From 10 to 7 o'clock, and no stable income salary, they work based on projects LOL!14
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For the second month in a row we’re getting paid late..
They practically skipped a salary..
Mannaggialaputtanatroia.2 -
Dear headhunters, you should start your initial job proposal messages with
"How much is your net salary and what benefits you're currently getting"
Then end it with
"We can make more happen."
Then let's talk2 -
Attention Software Engineers!
Quit shooting yourselves in the fucking foot! And this ESPECIALLY goes to new grads. I get that you have just finished school. I get that you need a job! But don't fucking settle for a $30-$40k salary because you're "entry level"! The only reason why there are employers who offer that type of salary is because they know that there are enough idiots who will settle for it!
On average, an entry level software engineer's salary is between $50-$60k at the very least! For Senior developers, it is at least $80K/year (although an argument can be made for why they shouldn't settle for less than $100k/year).
Each time a moron low balls his/her salary, that brings down the market value for that talent. And keep this in mind! They don't have a choice but to hire you. They could choose to outsource their work to poorer countries but they don't want to do that due to obvious quality-related reasons so they HAVE TO hire you if they need the work done. And since the ball is in YOUR COURT, demand your fair salary. You went to school for 4 fucking years. You dealt with that stress for 4 fucking years. Why settle for a salary that you could've made without going to school?55 -
Got a great new job, great athmosphere here, great salary and exciting projects :) looking forward to the future here!10
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Being paid as a 'junior software developer' at the average salary for that with all these responsibilities
That's a funny joke
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What a sad and frustrating day!
I got a call from recruiter. I told him that I'm not actively looking for change. But he requested for 2 mins to listen. He started telling about his company, how great it is, tech stack, perks, salary etc. He is telling everything but not company name, I waited patiently and asked what's the pay I can expect. The number blew my mind, it's nearly double to my current pay. Then...
Me: that sounds amazing, which company is this, and where is it?
Him: it is <my company name> and located at <my current location, same campus>
Me: .....
Him: so, what do you think?
Me: .... I need some time. Let me update my LinkedIn profile first and then, i will get back to you.
Him: sounds wonderful, will call back by Monday. <Call disconnected>
Me: <inside my head> @$_-$#(/+&_#
This in my 10th year in this company, some one kill me please.6 -
I'm loving my new job. Not for the salary or perks. Just for the simple fact that my developing opinions it's been taking in consideration!1
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!rant
Going to negotiate my starting salary as a Junior Engineer/Consultant in 30 minutes.
Wish me luck!4 -
That moment you receive your salary but decide to hold off paying your dues for a few hours just to take a break from being poor 🙄
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Just saw an ad on LinkedIn.
First line: looking for JavaScript developers of all levels
A bit further down...
Requirements: 4+ years of JavaScript experience plus whole front-end stuff
The fuck is wrong with people?
At least the salary is not crap. -
I've figured out the problem with my life. It isn't my job, or my wife, I am just really really bored with life and live a totally unfulfilling life and don't have the money or credit to live the life I want.
So I want to switch jobs to increase my income to travel the world, because that is the only thing I have come to find out I like to do.
Either that or just find some brain altering substance to where I don't even feel like I exist anymore.11 -
Currently being paid full consultant salary to watch printer software install itself. This is exactly what I hoped to do when I started my company.. At least the money is good.
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I started working for a company something around 1-2 months ago, they said because I don't have any experience with their stack, my salary will be lower than other team members. I said there is no problem and started my work. My first task was refactoring codes that their experienced programmers have wrote. My second task was extracting data layer from views. (They use Laravel and MVC architecture and they get data directly in views, not controllers). So, by end of the month when I talked with my boss I said I should get more money because I was better than your experienced programmers. He refused my request so I said I will not work with your team anymore :)
Anyway, never accept a job if you know you deserve more money than what they say will give you.
P.S: Sorry for my bad English. English is not my native language5 -
Just went from full time employee at my work to contract under my own LLC on a retainer at my old salary. I'm my own man and it feels great. All the tax breaks shall be mine.7
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Hooo boy the difference between working in fastfood and working in webdev. 2 week salary is not the same ! 💵💵💵3
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First week is over at my first job in Web development. Really happy about the salary and the company, can't wait to Monday! 😁 though I don't have much time to my private projects, that sucks.3
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On Skype.
[tldr: #muhPrivacy;]
You know, people hiring via Skype.
Gaming, seeing family or having long range relationships.
It's become a decent tool.
Then there is the Skype employee.
Opening a court case because in his work time, evaluating Skype calls - ON FUCKING OBSERVING SKYPING PEOPLE - he has to look at too much flesh (as in porn) for his salary level.
Like : the payment category states that you gotta be classed like 1,2 salary categories higher for such work.
So the first instance did not recognise the employees case, because they said its a state thing, or even higher.
Later instance evaluated the employee was right and decreed Microsoft / the NSA (whomever direct employees they are) to properly categorize their employees.
Therefore cost relatively exploded and an algorithm to detect nudity was built.
Wich is operational way earlier than Skypes TOS renewal mid 2018.
That also bans bad language and auto bans given accounts.
Talking about social credit..
in PROC (or prod, as they're known).
And btw: complaining about Google while posting Christmas gatherings on Instagram.. You get what I mean.
Honestly, I don't recall the sources. It's been a while.
I'd really appreciate a little compendium of this for historical reasons.
They will ask: what has brought us here? What is everyone an ultimate right/left/center/agnostic/religious fascist?
And we'll have it on paper. Or papyrus,.. even stone. As I don't know how far mighty people will go for their fortune.18 -
I kept telling my boss my salary wasn't good enough for the job I was doing, and for over a year, he kept telling me HR says I need to prove myself. I got admission to school to do a masters and all of a sudden, HR doubled my salary. FML.2
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I think i made a costly fuckup!
Last month i was called into the cabin of main boss and i believe he reviewed my work and gave me a slight increment in salary.
Only today that i noticed about missing increment in my last month's salary i received last week.
Only thing I'm sure is that i remember feeling happy that day and telling about my increment to my coworkers. They don't remember about it now.
I have no proof if i actually received increment or if i am just hallucinating..
What to do? 😕10 -
Building an amazingly complex system from scratch in Rust means 2 things to me...
1. Really cool tech with great syntax to learn
2. My value as a developer will be going up a lot. In terms of the salary expectations
I really love when I get to learn a new technology, not for a project or course, but to build really cool real-world applications.
That’s what drives me!5 -
Got internship opportunity. It's just an internship, but still it feels exciting and surreal for me. It feels weird because there is not really anything exciting about salary.
I guess it's the "my first job opportunity" butterfly.2 -
My december salary is delayed for a year (i’ll get paid around 2 or 3 january).
This broke af fireworks pic is how my new year looks like.
P.S Pic is stolen from facebook
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When the Internet starts to slow down near lunch and your music starts to buffer.
Cut my salary in half, but give me music.3 -
It's really sad how companies in UAE misusses the internship term, and make the poor interns do full time job with minimum or no salary.4
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Hey guys, I was wondering how much you're paid per month, how long have you been a dev and where you're from.
Personally, FR here paid 1500€ ($1700) +- for 3 years XP.60 -
Love development
Like the people I work with including the boss
Okay with the salary I guess
Fucking hate the customers -
Extract from a quite old recruiter email (excluding the formalities):
Position: junior dev
Workplace: office for first year, can be changed to remote after (salary will be 50% lower if you go remote though) *suspicion levels starts raising*
Payment: 1€ per line of code (empty lines/comments excluded) or page of documentation *alarms start ringing*
Additional info: on high alert for 4 weeks every 6 weeks *wtf is going on*, salary bonus is 10€ per week *I stopped reading here and moved the email directly to the spam folder*6 -
They wanna increase the tax of everything probably including the ball weight. Hey you got big ball, give 10% of your salary as tax. Fuck you government.
But you can't even provide a fucking proper electricity during day time.7 -
I got placed with decent salary in core Product based company. Happiness is at its peak 😄😆 .
#campusPlacement12 -
A great corporate culture, pleasant coworkers, a caring manager, meaningful work, and a good salary. Hmmm. Thank you for reminding me that I have a pretty close to ideal Dev job. I can live with what's missing. 🤠
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It bothers me when potential employers *require* a salary expectation in your application. It's like they're focusing on the wrong parts. I don't even consider places that do that, no matter how cool the job sounds. Remember kids, in negotiations, the first one to mention a number loses.5
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Yesterday, I asked for a double raise of my salary from mine p.manager.
I told him that I had an offer from another company with double salary.So we discussed the possibilities to have a good raise without changing company. He told me that can't be sure for my salary plan, but he will try to do the best.
I am still working in same company with same salary.
Who was bluffing better? 😑6 -
Figured I'd post for some advice here and see if anybody has had previous experience or success with a situation like this.
My team is generally comprised of full-stack developers completing front-end custom work on sites, writing back-end tools, and fixing broken sites. We are a rapid-response DEV team, and we typically turn around any custom requests in less than 5 days and fix any broken sites on the same day as they were reported. We manage almost 15,000 sites across multiple countries, and deal with very large corporations that many of you interact with every day (I'm trying to be cryptic here hahaha.) There are 16 of us on our team, and we are the only DEV team within our department of 500+ people. We are also the only DEV team taking requests from these 500+ people. The way the department works, we are the final say on whether a specific piece of custom work will get completed or not, and we are the go-to people when anybody has a question about our system infrastructure or if our system can accommodate a request, along with how to fix any broken pieces of our platform. We typically get about 150 requests per day. Lately, the entire team has become unhappy with our compensation for the work we do. We're quite underpaid, and they keep giving us more responsibilities without any sort of extra compensation. We've discovered that there are a large amount of non-developers below us that are getting paid more than we are. We've found that we get paid about $15,000 less than a comparable DEV team in a different department (let's call that team DEV_2,) just because of which department our team exists within, and how our department defined our job back when this position was created a few years ago. Ever since the position was created, our team's responsibilities have exponentially increased. We believe that there is absolutely no reason that an entry-level position below us should get paid just as much, or even more in some cases, than a developer. Of course, we're not asking to pay them less. Instead, we've decided that we're going to bring this up with our manager and schedule a meeting with him, our Department Director, and Human Resources, and voice that we believe that we should be on the same payscale as the comparable DEV_2 in the other department.
To be a good developer on our team, you need to not only have coding expertise, but also an encyclopedic knowledge of what you can do within our platform without any coding. You need this knowledge so you can pass it along to any people in positions below you, in case they didn't know that something could be done without custom code.
We're going to argue that if it weren't for our team, the company would be losing millions of dollars in clients, because people wouldn't have anybody to go to for platform infrastructure questions, broken websites, or custom work. Instead, they would need to send these requests to the DEV_2 team, which currently take about 6 months to turnaround requests. Like I said, we are a rapid-response DEV team, and these particular clients think that a 5 day turnaround time is ridiculous. If they had to wait 6 months for their request to be completed, they would cancel their contracts.
Not to mention the general loss of knowledge if the members of our team went to a different department, which would be catastrophic for our current department. Believe me, this department could not function without this DEV team. If we all went on vacation for a week, the place would be on fire by the time we got back, and many clients would be lost.
Do any of you have any experience with a situation like this, and if so, how did it turn out? Thank you!6 -
Companies that expect interns to work for free since they are learning at the job. sincerely fuck off!
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The first thing that matters to me for applying for a job is how their project that I am going to work on will improve me. I have refused a job position with a higher salary just because they want me as their only developers for their website and other things. Instead, I applied for another job with lower salary but now I am a backend developer of a team of 15 developers making a great product and I have learned many experiences.
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Hi, what is the average salary of developers in your country.
For me : i'm junior UI/UX designer and front end developer in Paris, working for Parisian digital consulting agency 35hrs a week
Annual salary 30k €
Adding to this :
Daily meal ticket 8,8€
Insurance
50% of transport ticket's price is refunded
And many other stuffs and don't even remember.
Knowing that Paris is an expensive city.
How about you people ?25 -
The 19th day each month is the German unofficial "tax payer day". Because we start working for our own salary, not for taxes...9
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some friend asked me today:
is it ok to lie to boss and say that I had a new job offer.. just to negotiate on the salary?
Me: post question on devrant13 -
I am torn apart for several months now. My boss and coworkers are amazing people, projects are quite fun and interesting, workplace is close to home and they pay for my exams (step by step reaching for MCSD certification), but...
The salary if fcking low (you could probably earn same ammount while working as a waitress of normal restaurant). Not only for me of course, but still :( Now I am thinking of running to some bank and doing boring programming job coding same tasks again and again, but getting payed very well4 -
Why don’t you like sharing your salary with coworkers? I tell people exactly what I am paid if the conversation comes up. It helps to know where you stand, i.e. if you’re being under paid or if you should ask for more in the next review cycle.7
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Recruiter Expecation:
Must have all the experience of a senior developer, but be content with the salary of a junior.2 -
Advertise junior level salary then proceed to reject you since they're *looking for someone more senior*
🙄3 -
-Applying for internship
-the "previous work/employee records" field is their
-can't leave it blank
-so did this "------" for its various fields of work position, start date of job, and date of job, salary, etc.
-warning says "can't leave that field empty"
HOW THE FUCK ONE APPLIES TO AN INTERNSHIP WITH WORK EXPERIENCE WHEN THERE IS NONE ?10 -
So I was lurking around stack overflow and this comes up.
It's very interesting and stuff but seems a bit unfair. They're literally the same position
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Best: My projects are working, I could get a great salary
Worst: I'm working for a school project and I have no time.2 -
TLDR;
How much do you earn for your skill set in your country vs your cost of living?
BONUS;
See how much I & others earn.
Recently I became aware of just how massive the gap in developers earnings are between countries. I'd love to calculate a fixed score for income vs cost of living.
I know this stuff is sensitive to some so if you prefer just post your score (avg income p/m after tax / cost of living).
I'm not shy so I'll go first:
MY RATES
Normal Rate (Long term): $23
Consulting / Short term: $30-$74
Pen Test: $1500 once off.
Pen Test Fixes: consulting rate.
Simple work/websites: min $400+
Family & Friends: Dev friends are usually free (when mutually beneficial). Family and others can fuck off, even if they can pay (I pass their info to dev friends with fair warning).
GENERAL INFO
Experience: 9 years
Country: South Africa
Developer rareness in country: Very Rare (+-90 job openings per job seeker).
Middle class wage in country: $1550 p/m (can afford a new car, decent apartment & some luxuries like beer/eating out).
Employment type: Permanent though I can and do freelance occasionally.
Client Locality: Mostly local.
Developer Type: Web Developer (True web dev - I do anything web related from custom HTTP servers to sockets, services, advanced browser api's, apps & more).
STACKS / SKILLSETS
I'M PROFICIENT IN:
python, JavaScript, ASP classic, bash, php, html, css, sql, msql, elastic search, REST, SOAP, DOM, IIS, apache
I DABBLE WITH:
ASP.net, C++, ruby, GO, nginx, tesseract
MY SPECIALTIES:
application architecture, automation, integrations, db's, real time data, advanced browser apps/extensions (webRTC, canvas etc).
SUMMARY
Avg income p/m after tax: $2250
Cost of living (car+rent+food): $1200
Score: 1.85
*Note: For integrity when calculating my cost of living I excluded debt repayments and only kept my necessities which are transport, food & shelter.
I really hope you guy's post your results, it would be great to get an idea of which is really the worst / best country to be a developer in.20 -
"We regret to inform that there will be a slight delay in processing the Dec 2019 salary"
When you get this mail at the very end of the year! 😵8 -
Heard its a norm from my ex-classname that its a norm be paid with equity instead of a fixed salary. whats ur take on this? please share. I for one cant imagine how i am suppose to survive without money.
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I lived to see this ... I asked for a salary and the recruiter doubled it . I remained speechless . I didn't bother to ask why i just accepted it ...2
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"We'll reach you out soon"
This is a sign you got rejected without hurting you.
"How do you see yourself few years from now?"
Is a sign that your employer would end your contract or you get to be terminated if you say that you will not be in their company.
"What's your expected salary?"
If you went overboard, they won't accept you. You either lower it or never give a fixed salary.
God why did no one tell me about these sooner. I'm facing mind-reading interviewer/recruiter/hr just to please them.3 -
My ambition is to develop my own game and publish it, then get a better paying job and to rise above my lazy ass nihilistic order-following coworkers.7
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I will never work in an open floor plan environment again.
The average salary is 6 figures and they can't even spring for sound deadening material on the concrete walls, nevermind cubicles.
Nothing says "I don't value your contribution to our product" quite like treating your engineers like cattle.4 -
Here in singapore, we developers are super under-appreciated, pm always get the credit. and our salary are never decent. is this a global thing or just us? please share18
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You want me to work in-loco, even thought my job can be done remotely? That's fine.
Your company's offices are located in a expensive district of a expensive European capital? That's fine too.
You want to pay me a salary so low, that I can only afford to live 2 hours away from work? Fuck That!!!
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when you are looking for php devs to join you on your startup and they don't understand the meaning of being a founder and expect a salary from the start 😭 you join early to get the long term benefits. a startup job isn't an immediate payday. ugh.3
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I currently have my dream job as a web developer, with a little above average salary, good colleagues and an understanding boss.
Today I had a recruiter contact me with a job opportunity (Senior developer) that would easily net me 1.5 times more salary, and a lot of other advantages.
It almost hurts to say no.4 -
That moment when your company switches developers from salary to hourly to avoid paying anyone more and skirts the new federal requirements.7
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So apparently there was a HUGE data leak in my country and everything from a person's name, gender, Identification number, to estimated salary is out there in the wild, ready to be used by anyone who wants someone else's identity.7
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Boss is always supporting me and helps me to get promotions and better salary. Has true leadership through servitude attitude. He knows that everybody he helps will gladly help him even without him asking for help.
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The senior developer on my team is leaving, and I'm dreading what's coming down the pipe. Basically everything he's responsible for now will land on me when he's gone. I guess now would be the time to reevaluate my salary.3
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I applied for an unknown job.
Email: you'll be taking Junior Developer
Interviewer: We need fullstack developer with a salary of $100 for two months of training and $450 if you have great accomplishments9 -
Frustrated... had a signed job offer disappear right before start date after jumping through a ton of hoops, turning down a competing offer, and wasting 3 days of PTO on their process, so back to interviews again.
How do you all determine what salary to ask/look for? Current job has pretty concrete pay bands that I'm pretty sure aren't market, but most of the site (glassdoor, etc) are all OVER the place, as titles can get so fuzzy from one place to another. From people I know I've heard everything from 20k less than I make to 70k more than I make (moderately high COL area, but not CA level). Levels.io seemed promising, but the one FANG offer I had didn't nearly match up with there, so I'm not sure how much of that is bluster or whatever... Blegh. I absolutely hate job hunting.6 -
!rant
TLDR; time to look for alternatives
Had a negotiation appointment with our CTO recently, due to the fact that I am going to finish my apprenticeship by the current year. As I heard from colleagues that the average pay for a finished apprentice isn't really the best, I wanted to try myself at bargaining it a bit higher.. So we went into the meeting and I brought up my argument, bossman just shrugs it off as laughable and that he can do it 100x better, so why should I define my pay on that.. The appointment was just very uncomfortable after that, no appreciation of my efforts at all. Not like I already work like a normal employee just with a quarter of the pay 😑2 -
I've just came to the end of my probation in a new role... Been told I've passed it already... But just raised an interesting typo in my original offer letter....
Instead of saying a
"pay increase up to £#####"
it says a
"pay rise OF £#####"
Upon completing your probation
So in half a mind to ask when I'll see my salary more than doubled like the offer letter says!3 -
I asked for increasing my salary, she said they can allow me for overtime for getting more money like increasing my salary (They asks overtime everyday btw)1
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How do you ask a co worker about their salary? Heard from one of our new hires that he asked for considerably more than what I started at, but I'm not sure if he was referring to his base salary or total value of compensation. It would boost my confidence considerably if I knew what I could be asking for. Hell even getting that as a starting would be quite a step up.19
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Why do German companies hate paying interns decent wages?
I just had an interview for an internship at a decently funded startup, and they proposed MINIMUM WAGE as a salary. Acted like it was the most normal thing in the world, too.
I do have a Bachelor’s degree in Software Engineering and some actual working experience as a developer, yet they suggested they’d pay me even less than that if they were legally allowed to. Is that their way of saying they don’t want me after all? They did invite me to a second interview.
I get that interns generally aren’t as productive as senior devs who spend years on a certain project, but minimum wage? Fuck that!
Luckily, they’re just the first company I talked to, but I do feel a little offended.16 -
Are you willing to share details of your salary, or for contractors your daily/hourly rate? If you're not, that's interesting to know too.
Interesting to know;
- Currency (hopefully obviously)
- Location of work (or if remote, primary location of employer?)
- Contract type (FT/PT employee, contractor/freelancer)
- Job title (or general activity for contractors)
- Number of years in role/contracting
- Whether or not you would or have shared your salary with a co-worker (perhaps you're willing to share here but not with a co-worker)
- Gender
The 'Why is it soooo taboo to ask co-workers salary?' question made me think about this (https://devrant.com/rants/1557306/...)10 -
Creating a popular SaaS while it itself being easily maintainable and generates an average monthly salary 😁
Santa... Please can I haz?1 -
I saw a recruiter rant on linked in where they can't figure out why candidates won't give out current salary or they won't represent. If you have been working in and learning hot technologies in your current job but you know you can earn more why would you want to be represented at the lowest possible rate? I say give them an acceptable salary range not current rate. I am seeing why devs are moving toward meet ups and networking to get decent work.1
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My Technical lead always asks one question to new interviewing candidates. "Write a SQL query to find the second highest salary from employee salary table". It's the same question which he faced in one interview and he didn't have answered it.
Sorry for my bad English..3 -
Fun fact. I work for a 20-year old company that does software which mostly does print outputs. 95% of our clients actually use it specifically and exclusively to print their invoice runs. There are over 25 printers in this office, 5 of which are within chair-rolling distance of my desk.
I don't know how to use or fix any of them. I must be a *really bad* developer. >.<3 -
It saddens me to see there are developers who are driven by high pay over interest and passion for programming.6
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Let's do a simple research here. What is the average fresh graduate salary as a programmer in your country.
In Hong Kong, it is around 2000USD21 -
I was talking with my mom on messenger and right after the moment I told her to stop believing in advertisement and not clicking on everything on the net... I saw a job ad on Instagram
"*cool company from my home country* front end developer for 3000 - 5000euro/month based on experience"
(which is a pretty good salary there, the avg is around 900euro/month)
me: *clicks*2 -
TFW your boss likes you enough to set up a full-time offer for you. 😗
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Got a job offer but the salary is slightly lower than expectation. I ask for a raise of a $50 the guy refused, fuck then try other candidate.2
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Who needs sound technical knowledge to get a good job. Study economics and biology and chemistry and physics and you will get a 6 figure salary job. (Being sarcastic :3)1
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Awesome products to build
Good Salary
Flexible Timings
Work from home
New technologies to work with
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Update on the previous rant(regarding office laptop stolen):
Company says there might be some deductions in salary. Trying to negotiate with them .
Would like to hear What's your company policy on stolen laptop?5 -
When you hate ur job so bad and secretly apply to a new one, do two interviews, then reduce 400$ from what u said ur expected salary was because youd rather die then use wordpress one more time.7
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Why is everyone addicted to monthly salary these days? No one seems interested in how money is actually made and managed (e.g. by the company they work for).
It's as if people just don't want to be rich.11 -
I do believe I have hit the hard limit in the market on how much an android dev like me can earn. I do wanna bust my a$$ with more tech stacks so I can make a system and then renegotiate my contract into making my company give me more money for my worth.
Would a certification from Google work?
Idk you tell me.
(Asking this because I am about to save up for my dream wedding, not gonna lie. I want a full Solemn High Mass with priests in glittering chasubles, all that chant and with all the Mozarabic trimmings and lots and lots of incense. Come on I don't expect my fiancé to pay for it. Gotta be responsible here)2 -
1- hope that Madagascar will be listed in Google Play when I try to register as a developer... 😭
2- upload many applications on Play Store 😍
3- working as an android developer with an average salary of $50,000 per year, not my actual shitty salary of $4,500 per year... 😒
4- Earn the Associate Android Developer Certification 😎 🙌3 -
So, I am working in this small company (9 employees - 2 developers me inclusive) in the Netherlands, already for 8 months. My responsibilities are mostly back-end development with PHP, but sometimes they ask me to do front-end apps too or even mobiles apps (with react js/native). And I have 4 years of experience. At the moment, I am responsible for 5 projects. In fact, if I quit, company is going to have a lot of problems, because no one can overtake my projects, they will need to hire someone else.
So, I get 1950euros/month, which is really low for developer with my skills in the NL (I agreed on this, because at the time I really needed the job and I am not a good negotiator), and I feel like the company is taking advantage of me. But from the other side, I like my colleagues, bosses and the projects I work with, they are awesome, comparing to my prior experience. I even get the freedom to experiment with new technologies.
So I am going to ask for a raise, but is there a limit for how much should I ask? I would like to get at least 2.5k, which is already 30% increase, but salary.com says I should get 4k. So, I wonder isnt it a little too much?
I never asked for a raise before, so I would really appreciate some advice.1 -
We have to talk about TechLead, having ads all over YouTube that say if you follow their guide you can earn a $200k salary grad job.
devrant needs a bs emote too2 -
!dev
Just switched from a rent that is below 10% of my salary to a solid 20% one. I feel somehow bad, although the size is much better.
How much do you pay for housing compared to you salary, guys?19 -
Ex-Backend dev of my former job decided not to get his back wages because the micromanaging CEO took over the clearance process of issuing the backpay.
In short he will have to sit in his office, hear him rant on how we are bad people, make us sign some sort of gag order telling us not to say anything bad about him or about our former company, then we get our back pay, which is probably just the cost of one sack of rice after all the imaginary deductions he can think of.
We don't understand. It's the HR who takes care of the former employee's back wages. Not the CEO. We don't need to see him in matter like this yet he wants to personally take care of it?
Anyway we chalked it off to the fact that he is a micromanaging asshole who is looking for ways to fuck us up even further through maybe some end-of-employment signing contract so nah, we'll just not get it.
You know, one of the sins that cry out to God for vengeance are unpaid wages. So we'll just fuck up our ex-CEO's chances for salvation by simply not claiming the money we are owed. Why should we have to crawl and grovel for things that are entitled to us by Heaven?
If anything, the CEO should be the one flooding our inbox with messages begging us to take our back wages.
We will probably get our backpay, sure, but if we do, it will be on our terms. Not his. Fuck him.3 -
Let's see: Right now I am in two recruitment process of two enterprise.
One enterprise (Genexus, a big enterprise) I would join the I+D team, good salary, EXCELLENT work place, and 2hs of travel from home.
The other enterprise (InnovaAge, a little but powerful enterprise in grow) I would join as trainee / junior developer who helps in the development team and I would constantly learn to become like my teammates, same salary than Genexus, good work place, and 1.5he of travel from home.
Same working hours amount and same salary but InnovaAge have the GREAT advantage of be near from my University, Genexus is TOO far from there.
So, I ask you: if both enterprises would want to recruit me ... What offer should I accept?
I ask to you because you have more knowledge and exp. You are lvl 20-40 xD2 -
Few months back I got a decent increment as a token of appreciation for my good work.
Yesterday we all received a Special townhall meeting invitation.
We all were wondering what it was about. Now my colleague who sits beside was guessing that it may be about a salary revision and she complained that she didn't get any increment last time.
Inner me: Why the heck company should increment your salary for the shitty work you do.
You are simply incapable of doing what you are supposed to do.
You spend more time talking crap rather than trying to learn and use it to write some non shitty code.
You should be thankful to the company for not firing you.1 -
In light of this week's topic - I need your thoughts. I am planning to quit my current job. In your experience, should I have another job before quitting or look for it full time. I just got my appraisal - will the salary at the new job match my increased salary or would it be the same. Note, I have only 1 year experience.6
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Well I ended up getting two jobs through my college so now I've gotta pick between:
- A legacy maintenance job with a better environment and salary, for a minimum of two years.
OR
-An IT based job with a lower salary but no fixed initial working period.
Advice devRanters?
PS: I am in debt because I took a loan for college tuition. 😐
*Confused*6 -
My friend invited me the company he works as a dev with much higher salary than my current shitty work for the third time, cannot leave current this because of technical dept.6
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When you're asked about your salary expectations and answer with "45k a year" and the head of engineering that's interviewing you looks like you just asked for more money than he's currently earning, then you're probably applying at a startup.2
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A company gave a recruiting agency the requisites and allowed the recruiters to actually hire the people instead of just arranging plans. A recruiter came to me and offered me a senior position with a 50k salary with no interview or anything. I'm not even a graduate yet... I didn't take it cause I want to finish my degree1
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Suddenly you got demotivated when you came to know your level colleague have higher salary then your...4
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[Background]
Back in September I joined a startup after my first job in MNC for about 1.8 yrs as a fresher. I always wanted to learn, but the experience in that MNC was not at all fruitful. So ai decided to join a small/mid size company or a startup. To my luck, I got in this small startup in a week after my resignation as a front-end dev (always wanted to be).
It's an automation company, so you can find software, electronics, even mechanical engineer.
The team was almost a year younger than me. It was a team of around 12 people, in which 5 of them were from Business development.
The tech team was too driven and knowledgeable. Always trying new stuffs and motivating to do the same. I was highly motivated by them in my initial days, watching them working on new stuffs.
So I started with revamping their website completely in Angular 4, and did it in around a month or so, being new to Angular. Outcome was pretty satisfactory. I wanted to work on new projects, but just to get the cashflow in they started getting in WordPress projects. It was frustrating, I wanted to work more on new technologies like Angular, React, etc...but just for the survival of the company I had to work on WordPress, so to respect their urge to get going I kept working on 3-4 projects in parallel, and mind you the clients were from hell !!
Fast-forward 4 months, I am still working on few WordPress websites, and one internal GPS based project in React. And I haven't received my salary for past 3.5 months, since the company is still struggling with the issue of funding and getting money from clients. I kinda liked working there because there was lot to learn even though they are so young, but I had bills to pay too.
And I am in dilemma to leave the company or not, because I already stretched 3 months out of good will and guilt of leaving the company in high time. So i finally let the CEO know that I cannot stick for any longer. And i was done with the false promises of getting the salary "next month" everytime. All the money getting inside of company was invested heavily on the product we were building and no one was getting the salaries. Others were fine since they were founding members too.
Long story short : I finally left immediately and now working in a good company as a React dev. I hope they do well and I would love to see them grow, but please *STOP* making false promises and hold on to employees on a lie.1 -
I'm stuck...I life in small city, there is like 3-6 Web programming companies...my salary just got smaller for no reason...and I'm programming with fuckin Magento... I'm really want to live on Mars, alone.2
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How many late invoices are acceptable for a developer working in an early stage startup before they should stop believing in their own team?
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Got a text from the bank that my salary is credited in my account on my way to work.
Can I turn around and head back home now? -
So my recruiter decided to calc his own bruto salary(gross) over my netto one...
Turns out he missed about 800 euro in his conversion ratio... Motherfucker ... That sets me back 5 years in salary u asshole 😶 -
Company not giving my salary on time and waiting for it to arrive. Worrying about paying rent and stuff is not doing good for my focus.1
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If you apply to a company for a web dev job and their website is a one pager that absolutely sucks and the content written gives the impression they dont know what they are doing should u aim high or low in the expected salary question 🧐4
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Every school I applied for the next year rejected me... So I'm forced to work next year instead... In a way that's great but I'm only 20 and wanted to get higher diploma for a better salary 😕2
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Has anyone made enough money with their SaaS to quit their day job and focus on the business 100%? I’m considering doing it and just do Lyft or Uber on the side to make up for the salary decrease.3
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Front end developer in the U.S. has higher average salary than web developer. so next time don't say front end is just html stuff, guys business logic has come to the client side.2
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When your job description says you are a mobile developer, but when you started working, you have started handling teams and doing web penetration testing. Then after 2 yrs of that still no salary raise. =.=3
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So I got offered 85k job in NYC. The interviews went well and they were impressed with all my answers. Now here's the deal.
I have 2 years of good software development experience in.my home country and then moved to USA for further studies. Now graduated this May.
Not sure if 85k(including all perks) is the right amount ? Or negotiate it to make it 90k...6 -
My salary. They came back with a solid counteroffer on what was supposed to be my last day and here I am.8
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I guess days lile today, where hard work and solid effort is rewarded with a promotion and a sizeable increase in salary.
Feels good man -
Another curious question.
How much is your hour worth? In average. Mine is no more than $10/hr and probably $5/hr sometimes.
Whether freelance hours or full time salary. So I will know how low are dev getting in my country. And then probably I can cry myself to sleep. 😁5 -
Was invited to interview by agent for 1yr contract position. Was accepted for permament position with bigger salary instead. Now I’m an Unix Infrastructure Engineer
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At a salary of $11/hour, no overtime, is a junior web developer with no previous experience and no personal project undervalued?25
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I did a project that is way too advanced for me, as an intern at a great company.
Didn't finish in time, but got paid an extraordinary salary, compared to other students.
It still hurts1 -
What % increase to your salary would you expect for a promotion? What about if you left for another job somewhere else?
For what it's worth, speaking about a Junior dev in the US.5 -
Here's a question that I still don't know how to respond.
What's the expected salary of a front end developer?
In euros please.6 -
Any senior dev who get less paid in terms of his juniors or am I the only one?
If anyone who is in same shoes like me please suggest how to cope with the feeling of unrest and feel less miserable.6 -
Launch braiven.io, been working on it for last few months.. it's honestly everything I have ever learn in my 5 years of coding...I'm ashamed that I don't have a start-up yet and I can't get a decent salaried job since I don't qualify for most of them... But I can get a site up and I'm fullstack . So by week 200 braiven.io should be running like magic1
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Only dev in the company, couple of on going wordpress projects, just left without notice period. Im going to hell arnt I.
Explanation: I had not yet signed any contracts because the boss “trusted me” i just completed 3 months (standard probation period in other companies) but just got a job offer with triple the salary but recruiters seemed in a rush and i figured i might lose my shot if i told them to wait. Keep in mind in my country that kind of salary is impossible to get for a 21 yr old dev.1 -
Seeing the US pay for IT people compared to UK and damn the difference is insane. Given the UK healthcare is free, I wouldn't see its usage until old age, and the costs of US vary greatly but most places US pays a lot. For e.g. Airbnb in US pays graduate IT people 200k USD starting while the highest I've seen for IT people in London is 46k GBP, which even after conversion is waay less, and the tax amount if about the same if not more in UK. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I've seen, maybe I should consider moving to the states :/.6
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If only the Finance team in my office knew about the proportion of the salary that I get, that goes towards me browsing 9gag every month.
Glad they don't.1 -
just sharing* Singapore developer market-rates 2016 for different skillset. what are your thoughts, please share.
link:
https://vulcanpost.com/581278/...
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* Good salary
* Interesting work (ML in my case)
* Respects employees
* Startup culture
* Somewhere I can make a difference
* Doing something worthwhile (green energy/healthcare/etc)
* Freedom to try and fail3 -
What's a reasonable salary for a Junior Web Dev with 3 years experience in London?
PHP
MYSQL
HTML
CSS
Javascript
Thanks12 -
TL;DR: what salary would you give a mid or senior Symfony fullstack dev. What would you ask during interviews?
We're currently looking into hiring a fullstack Symfony dev, focus on frontend. Expirience wise it should be a mid to senior role, as I'm the only other dev. We're looking for someone remote, so don't really care where they're comming from.
What salary would you deam apropriate? And what would you ask them in an interview? Any other things to consider?16 -
It has to be working from home without any schedule and being paid ridicously more than your country's average salary, doing something you enjoy. Oh, and I don't even need a degree. :)
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"16$/h [CAD] is a decent salary in this market [small town]"
*requires 5 years of experience*
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Better salary vs Work satisfaction with scope of learning, exploring and creating new things. which one should I choose?
Mind says package, heart says work satisfaction.3 -
Don't just think starting salary - think about your income over the course of your working life.
Your starting salary might be high - but it might mean that your ceiling after that is quite low. If you reach your ceiling too soon, you'll have to retrain to get more dough.
Retraining is starting again and might not jive very well with a partner and children in tow.3 -
My salary doubled for a new job after having 2 yrs of working experience. Shit last time when I have 1 yr of exp I barely can get even $50, does the full 2 yrs experience matter? Fuck recruiters were trying to squeeze me last time!5
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Why my friend learns new languages: will it get me a higher salary?
Why I learn new languages: work isn't challenging, I don't have any side projects, don't feel like binging anime...
Just started learning Scala to once again try to pick up FP paradigm.
I'm also thinking it may be better for understanding algorithms?
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I'm looking at replicating to the Netherlands. Would any devs on here be able to tell me what the living cost is like and what a decent salary is for a new graduate with a bit of experience?12
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!rant
Imagine your company would spend 100$ more per employee to rent a bigger, nicer office. Imagine how much additional space you'd have there. Maybe individual offices for everybody, or at least not more than two or three employees per office? Telephone booths for long calls, or a library to work in absolute silence, to do research, or to study something new there.
How would that affect your productivity and overall happiness? How much better you'd feel there? How much more relaxed would you be? How much less sick days would you have, and how much money would your company save resp. make more due to higher productivity?
Or would you rather have a salary raise of 100$?4 -
I joined a company when 18yro. I am from Vocational High School take Software Engineering.
...
My friend at workplace joined the company with label as a fresh graduate from university.
...
We work.
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Me become a PIC of a project. And my friend still code something easy and unused by the company.
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We got our first salary. And what the hell is going on, his salary 2x of mine.
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Welcome to Indonesia, skill is doesn't matter with your salary. They look for the fahking scroll.9 -
Joined a new company few days back and found out that colleague with very less experience than mine is at a very higher salary..
How to politely convey ur boss to match the salary..4 -
My employer gave me leaves and deducted salary for those days. This is a full time job. Has this happened to anybody here? Is this even legal?5
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Bossman called me up the other day, asked if I had looked at courses and told me I should think about signing up in September.
Thing is, I don't have a degree or anything beyond a high school diploma, since I'm self taught and got hired because of my ability to learn fast and my portfolio, and I told them I'd consider looking at a two year program.
But I don't want to have to be doing coursework after work, and besides, if I do a course, I want to do so because I wanted it... Sad thing is, yearly review is coming up in a month and I worry my salary is gonna stay where it started... Which is not great :S
Any thoughts?5 -
My buddy and I both just interviewed at the same company. He got asked about salary expectations and I didn’t. Am I right in assuming that’s a bad sign?1
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As a big company CTO will you hire developers from Africa. And how much will you recommend as starting salary .2
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Could someone point out how much a React developer can make per week in Indian? Let’s say within 3 years experience. Longer than that seems not very realistic 🤔5
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Do any of you fine people work somewhere where salaries are transparent?
By which I mean, everyone knows (or is able to find out) what everyone else earns
If so, how does it work? Whilst I'm not too bothered how much my colleagues earn (unless it's an order of magnitude more than me or something), I know some people definitely would be4 -
1) own work hours.
2) good salary.
3) programming is fun.
and most of all.
we can make an impact in other peoples life. -
Any wordpress developer?
I have some question.
1. How many years you are working?
2. Are you freelancer or what?
3. How much earned from your job?
4. In which country?
5. Tell about job future8 -
I never went to college, the main reason was financially so I self educated myself from home, and 1 year later I had a bigger salary than the average salary in my country.. so I diploma is just a paper to me.. in fact one of my friends who went to a well recognized college in my country came to me to do him a project, he ended up impressing the professor and getting highest marks. So no CS degree has 0 affect on your job today.
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Many years in the same company waiting for an improvement in my career. Result: role change from Solution Manager to ICT consultant (better before) and Salary increase of 20% (better now). I simply do not understand my company behavior. Happy and Sad at the same time. What do you think? Titles do matter or not?
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I'm quite happy with my job as a full stack web developer, but I'd like to have a raise.
Is there any reliable source helping me finding out what I'm worth? I have no idea how much more I can ask from my boss.
Living and working in germany btw.9 -
How much do you earn if you work professionally. Include experience and position.
Me:
50 h per month student type job as a web dev mostly frontend, 1 year and 3 months of professional experience - 1300euro/ month17 -
What should be the salary expectation in Berlin Germany for a 10+ years experienced senior software engineer?7
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I just recently graduated with my MBA like 8 months ago and I’m currently a mid level developer. How high of a salary increase should I expect.2
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What's everyone opinion on the "decent" graduate salary?
That is both for experienced programmer (3 years on the job) and newbie (straight outta uni). Asking from UK, but any answer's welcome!5 -
Let’s talk American salaries. I wanna know salary ranges in diff American cities on this platform. Might put some graphs together or something. But drop em 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 and include your role.14
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Need some job search advice here please!
A startup is has offered me a job, but is going to be paying me half salary for 3 months, and then they're sure to get funding, so will be paying the difference amount after 3 months. But, it all hangs on this supposed funding that will happen in 3 months. The "CEO" is actually working for another company currently. And his rationale for half salary was, we all need to take risks with startups. Is this worth taking up? The alternative is me continuing job search for a more stable job (where I can stay for few years) and a full salary with benefits and all. I'd tried starting up on my own earlier, and now I'm looking for opportunities fulltime (in other words unemployed).8 -
As developer which one do you prefer?
Your favorite job with normal salary or a disappointing job with good salary?
What's your main factor in choosing your work?5 -
Just got offered the position of IT Specialist on a salary at my current job where I'm a legal assistant. I have an interview with a fortune 500 for an apprenticeship in a few weeks though.1
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I'm not doing this for money but what's the average salary of a front-end web developper or a programmer ?
(How much do you earn ?)1 -
Maybe you guys can help me. I gonna have a job entry in the next time, but i dont know what to say about my desired salary. I got a bachelor of computer science. Maybe you can tell me your amount you got at your entry job. In my opinion, our work sector has a big range of salary... I cant rate it...2
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I'm from Tunisia and I'm looking for opportunities in the USA. One point bothers me. What's the average salary of an entry level DevOps/SysAdmin engineer?!1
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Do you guys feel like your current salary fits your current job and your actual tasks and responsibilities?
I for example feel like my previous job was overpayed for what my actual responsibilities were and that my current job (being the first dev in a fresh start-up) is overwhelmingly underpaid for what amounts to way more and bigger tasks and responsibilities than I had at my previous job. But I'm nonetheless more happy with my current job than I ever were with my previous one.5 -
But if a private question but for whoever wants to share, how much did your first job after graduation pay? I know it depends on the country or state ofc so let me know from where to. (Not collecting data for programmers starting salaries >.> I swear >.> )9
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Dear Dev Rant Community. Any Berlin developer here. How much is the developer salary per year? Supposing that I’m have 4 years of experience?
PS: web development experience1 -
Perhaps cryptography? (since I "code" things). Also bring home a good salary and excellent health insurance. 😉
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Is there any way to become a security expert form online courses and get an average salary job staying at home? Need to know. Thanks
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