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I got attacked by ransomware and was asked for money...
I sent them my salary slip..They removed it from my computer immediately..
I wanna cry.14 -
based on true story
> delivered project on time
> giving good performance
> boss noticed
> gives appreciation
> raise in salary
> profit2 -
!rant
We keep ranting about managers, here is something good about mine. He increased my salary a 100% of my current. Which is freaking awesome.
That's all have a good day. ☺️6 -
That sad moment when you realize that your salary is less than other employees, the most sad is you work harder and you have more skills.
Life is not fair.6 -
My non coder friend thinks typing a 1000 line document and coding 1000 line software/app are perfectly equal things and deserves equal salary.20
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FYI, you get paid an average of 100k/year working for a business as a dev in switzerland. In india, you'll be looking at an average salary of 5-7k.
Which is less than what you earn in a month in switzerland.
We are so spoiled.16 -
!rant
Today is one of many days fellas! Today my coworkers and I will fight again for more salary! Our company is making millions and billions of euros and we won't be gifted for our work!
I hope in your countries you have the same rights to fight for your money. If so, do it!
Sorry for no Dev realated post's!
TL;DR I have me no money40 -
Im one of the people who got laid off due to covid19. I was hoping to find work at the same salary my previous job paid me at the very least. A friend of mine pointed out the fact that since i've been in the industry a while that I could ask for a lot more than what I made. I didn't believe him, but since my wife agreed, I've been asking for double my previous salary. I actually got a job that met my ask. I'm glad to say that after being afraid I was getting in over my head, I can actually do this. Glad my friend told me my worth and I hope others have friends that can do the same for them.14
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"Open Source is life", he tweets.
Gets a job offer from Microsoft.
Starts salary negotiation without thinking twice. #irony24 -
Was working in small startup with great people on new projects, but for very low salary and shitty conditions.
Changed job to big company with nice salary and great conditions, but people are assholes and have to work on legacy stuff mostly.
Guess you can't have everything.1 -
Recruiter: “What are your salary expectations?”
(The job listing indicates a salary range that STARTS at 2x my current total comp…)
Me, as nonchalant as possible: “The listed range is sufficient.”5 -
have an interview in 20 mins, this is the last round.. new job has 80% salary hike compared to current .. wish me luck guys!!!13
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I met with the CTO of a local tech company today for a beer, at the recommendation of a friend who currently works at the company. They're looking for Software Engineers and wanted to see if I'd be a good fit.
I'm not actively looking to leave my current job, as I love it there. I was just curious to see what other opportunities were out there.
After the beer, he pretty much offered me the job on the spot for $30,000 to $40,000 more than my current salary, along with benefits. When I asked if there was any sort of technical interview, he said that this meeting was actually the technical interview, and that by the time he had finished his first beer, he could already tell that I would be a good fit. He wants me to meet with his Lead Architect and CEO soon just to see if we all click and then we'll go from there.
The only problem is that I really love my current company. I love the work, the atmosphere, the autonomy, and my coworkers. But an extra $30k to $40k per year is a lot of money.
If everything works out and they give me an official written offer, I'm going to see if my current job will counteroffer. I know my boss would happily counteroffer if he's given authorization from the higher-ups, it's just a matter of exactly how much they're able to counteroffer.19 -
Boss told me he couldn't raise my salary, since according to him, I was already overpaid. Months later they suddenly outsource some positions, including mine. I got 6 months with payment as a parachute. But I also got a new job that pays $15 000 more each year...!
It's nice to have double salary for 6 months...
:)9 -
Congratulations on a great year of continuous stress and being successful. As a reward here's a 50 bucks increase to your salary.
Yeah... great.. fuck you!1 -
If they immediately agreed to your salary expectations, either your expectations were low or their expectations were high (or both).
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First of all, I hate crammers so much. These people kill the industry without even understanding it. They turned interviews into exams, missed the point of hiring, and saw no distinction between knowledge and information all the time. They don't understand that if you can google an answer in five seconds, it's not knowledge. It's information.
They don't understand that questions like 'what will Python do if you delete an item from a dict while iterating over it' are complete nonsense. They don't understand that it's not 'dig deep'; it's just a bad practice that leads to errors, thus must be avoided. The fact of remembering 'RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration' means that you haven't been avoiding it enough.
One more example. Which signature is correct?
- ApplicationListener<ContextRefreshedEvent>
- ApplicationListener<ContextRefreshEvent>
- ApplicationListener<RefreshedEvent>
- ApplicationListener<RefreshEvent>
Second. What's the point of forcing you to write compilable code in google docs? Do they really expect that one could possibly remember 'import org.springframework.beans.factory.annotation.Autowired;'? Seriously?
Third. Why do they expect me to know Spark, Java, J2EE, Spring Boot, Python, Kafka, Postgres, React/Redux, TypeScript, and work for miserable 70K EUR?
What's wrong with the European IT job market? Are they fucking nuts?9 -
so, I hate my job, they give me many tasks (many of tasks are not on my field) with no trainings and no time, plus a salary that is not that good.
I get angry, so I talked with the boss about leaving yhe company.
Well, our discussion ended up by convincing me to stay with the double of the salary.
So, I accepted the offer.
Don't know whether it's the right decision or not..9 -
oh btw (can't beleive I forgot to rant about it here!)
i finally got that juicy 6 figure job ;)
i start soon...
thanks ya'll for getting me through the pain and suffering that was this summer's job hunt
but... back to the wagey wagey life... so... ☠️17 -
I got the job! 🥳 🎉
One company wanted me to wait a little over a week because they had other final round interviews going on. Meanwhile, during that time, I got an offer, but declined because of lower than expected salary and higher salary on the other potential offer. Later, they got back and increased the salary and changed the role to Lead. Got the role after one more round of interview. 😁10 -
Resumes don't mean jack shit!!
I just got off an interview call with a candidate for a hardware role. On paper this guy is absolute gold, having worked for some of the best robotics companies and research groups(in India at least) It took me an hour to realize that the was just spitting out buzz words. So I started asking him some very fundamental questions, like ohms law and such.. high school stuff. But, phrased in real world terms. And it took me another half an hour to realize that the guy is dumber than a sack of peanuts!
I can't believe how easy it is for people to coast by on paths paved by seniors and teammates. By any objective assessment this guy would be lucky to get a job as an electrician and instead I'm wasting my time interviewing him for a six figure salary (well, the Indian equivalent). Gaaah!!7 -
*senior designer*
Last year I had a meeting with the newly hired Senior Graphics Designer.
She was presenting the new design of the company's website with all the features she wants.
After a few minutes, I asked her, did you design it as a responsive website?
"What is that?" She said. I said that the website should display or have atleast a design for mobile view and desktop view.
And she replied, "is that a requirement?"
Talks to myself: how the hell we hire designers like this?
PS, she earns 4x my salary5 -
Linkedin in my home country is a clown fiesta. I swear to god if I see just one more post about "unpaid internships" I'mma shoot the whole block I don't care anymore.
IF I WANTED TO WORK FOR FREE I'D BE DOING CHARITY FOR THOSE WHO NEED, NOT UNPAID WORK FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NO NEED2 -
A competitor of ours is offering a junior dev role. The base/starting salary is equivalent to mine 😖10
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I just dropped my office laptop !
😨😨😨😨
There is a crack on the corner of the body but the device is Ok !
I am worried they will charge me the whole cost of the laptop ( i.e. 3 months worth salary )19 -
I asked my boss for a raise. Since we're data scientists, I basically plotted a column chart showing that he was paying me half of the european average. I said I was willing to negotiate but he was very 'discomfortable'.
Time to go find another job. Or second one 😭6 -
job posts in Algeria:
we need a full stack developer, with 5+ years experience.
we have a great salary ($400/month) 😂6 -
this is an average salary ***Per Year*** of an ultra advanced experienced software engineer who lives in serbia, europe. the sad part is not that this is per year, the sad part is that this is so much money in this country that if you have this salary *Per Year*, you're one of the richest men in the block.
another sad part is, these $15,000 american US dollars are equivalent to 1.5 Million in our currency.
so basically people are so satisfied with this salary because they are basically "millionaires".
now tell me again, how bad is your salary?25 -
The dilemma of having a job that I love but a salary that just breaks even with living expenses and student loans.2
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I live in zurich switzerland one of the most expensive places to live. And i work as a jack of all trades graphic ux/ui designer/copy writer/marketeer in IT security.
I earn about $3800 a month, but every salery calculator says I should earn above $7000. With a median salery of $9300. But this seems so much money and I suffer from low self esteem. So what should I do? (Quitting is not an option because I like it there)11 -
public function recruiters($salary)
{
if($salary == "competitive")
{
return NaN;
} else
{
return "What is the real salary?";
}
}3 -
Competitive pay
This has happened to me.
When startups post job they write competitive pay in thier posting.
Then later after interview they off er you $20/Hr.! And thier excuse we are a start up so can't offer much.
Then why the hell did you just throw that word of competitive pay in job description. Just because Amazon and other companies have that in thier posting.??
Don't you feel that competitive pay is a misused term. Almost all job posting have this. I don't get it. What is the competing with ?? MC Donald's ?
P.S. I have 2 yrs experience and worked with a startup and a full time job. And I am not arrogant about it. But when you ask me to do something I am good at I demand a good price. I respect my work.3 -
Joined my current company as a Frontend Engineer 2 years back. They recently got funded and started hiring with a higher salary range. Not to brag but I'm pretty good at my job with 6yr of experience but my current salary makes me a lower mid-level engineer now and I'm the only frontend guy here.
So, now they're asking me to take interviews of the applicants who are applying for the senior position.
Why do people have to be such an assholes to the employees, man?3 -
Get into management is not a promotion but a career change.
But I saw a salary bump since I'm working as a software development manager.16 -
Fuck man.. very disappointed now.. 3 months ago i was told not to worry about funding and salary and all, now fucking still waiting for half salary.. fuck startup like this10
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Is it OK to lie to recruiters about your current salary to get a bigger increase if applying for jobs?
One of them told me I should lower my preferred salary (even though I've done research on the market) because it is more than the norm of a 10% increase.
I want to earn what I deserve, not what some titface recruiter dictates.19 -
Some recruiter just reached out on LinkedIn to talk about a job opportunity with me.
I suggested he give me an idea of the pay range before i proceed and talk to anyone in the company so we dont waste eachothers time.
He said they can realistically pay X/month.
I explained that X is less than half my current salary (Y) so i wont proceed with this.
He replied by saying "oh nice, thats a great salary for your experience"
WTF is that supposed mean? did the bitch say im underqualified to get paid my current salary?10 -
The job I am interning at wants to hire me. Yay.
But they want to start me at basic programmer salary, which makes me feel really sad about doing another 1.5 years of specialisation education.
Just to get hired at the salary of what I could have started at 1.5 years ago.
They even keep talking about how competent I am, and how easy it has been implementing me.
I studied to specialise so it would be easy.
Fucking pay the convenience fee.7 -
Got a great new job, great athmosphere here, great salary and exciting projects :) looking forward to the future here!11
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I started working for a company something around 1-2 months ago, they said because I don't have any experience with their stack, my salary will be lower than other team members. I said there is no problem and started my work. My first task was refactoring codes that their experienced programmers have wrote. My second task was extracting data layer from views. (They use Laravel and MVC architecture and they get data directly in views, not controllers). So, by end of the month when I talked with my boss I said I should get more money because I was better than your experienced programmers. He refused my request so I said I will not work with your team anymore :)
Anyway, never accept a job if you know you deserve more money than what they say will give you.
P.S: Sorry for my bad English. English is not my native language5 -
I'm loving my new job. Not for the salary or perks. Just for the simple fact that my developing opinions it's been taking in consideration!1
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Applying for jobs
Apply for anything that looks like I have any kind of shot
Get reply from one company
"Hi. What is your salary expectation?"
"x"
Nothing for 6 days
Reach out again "Hi. I'm guessing you've gone with someone else as I've heard nothing back"
"No your salary expectation was a bit high"
"Okay well, what are you offering"
"47% of X as this is a junior position"
Like...
Firstly, X is what I was making at my last job
Secondly, you can see how much experience I have. You know I'm gonna be asking for 2-3 year money not intern money.
Thirdly, all they had to do after my first email was reply with "That's bit much, here's what we can offer, are you still interested?"
So yea, in general, I hate the salary expectation question. I don't want to sell myself short but I'm also currently in the take what I get position. So if you ask me, I'm gonna tell you what I was last making. I think that was a reasonable number and I know everyone has been hit by the pandemic so I'm not asking for more.
Just advertise jobs with a damn salary range.
You know which jobs do have a salary range? The senior positions. You know who does know how to negotiate? Seniors15 -
Most horrific interview process I had gone through was by the CMMI level 5 company.
They had asked common Java questions & then after an interview they had not called back.
Suddenly, after a year I had got a call from them, I had barely remembered that past interview & still they had reminded me about the same.
Then they had said that that I got selected & offered me 10% less salary than I demanded a year back.
When I had asked why I had been offered less salary than even my current salary?
Then they had said they were CMMI level 5 company, so based on that in my next job after joining their company, I could demand more salary.
I had said them that I will reply after a year & had cut the call.
I think I did the correct thing 😎.1 -
Hooo boy the difference between working in fastfood and working in webdev. 2 week salary is not the same ! 💵💵💵3
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Attention Software Engineers!
Quit shooting yourselves in the fucking foot! And this ESPECIALLY goes to new grads. I get that you have just finished school. I get that you need a job! But don't fucking settle for a $30-$40k salary because you're "entry level"! The only reason why there are employers who offer that type of salary is because they know that there are enough idiots who will settle for it!
On average, an entry level software engineer's salary is between $50-$60k at the very least! For Senior developers, it is at least $80K/year (although an argument can be made for why they shouldn't settle for less than $100k/year).
Each time a moron low balls his/her salary, that brings down the market value for that talent. And keep this in mind! They don't have a choice but to hire you. They could choose to outsource their work to poorer countries but they don't want to do that due to obvious quality-related reasons so they HAVE TO hire you if they need the work done. And since the ball is in YOUR COURT, demand your fair salary. You went to school for 4 fucking years. You dealt with that stress for 4 fucking years. Why settle for a salary that you could've made without going to school?42 -
On Skype.
[tldr: #muhPrivacy;]
You know, people hiring via Skype.
Gaming, seeing family or having long range relationships.
It's become a decent tool.
Then there is the Skype employee.
Opening a court case because in his work time, evaluating Skype calls - ON FUCKING OBSERVING SKYPING PEOPLE - he has to look at too much flesh (as in porn) for his salary level.
Like : the payment category states that you gotta be classed like 1,2 salary categories higher for such work.
So the first instance did not recognise the employees case, because they said its a state thing, or even higher.
Later instance evaluated the employee was right and decreed Microsoft / the NSA (whomever direct employees they are) to properly categorize their employees.
Therefore cost relatively exploded and an algorithm to detect nudity was built.
Wich is operational way earlier than Skypes TOS renewal mid 2018.
That also bans bad language and auto bans given accounts.
Talking about social credit..
in PROC (or prod, as they're known).
And btw: complaining about Google while posting Christmas gatherings on Instagram.. You get what I mean.
Honestly, I don't recall the sources. It's been a while.
I'd really appreciate a little compendium of this for historical reasons.
They will ask: what has brought us here? What is everyone an ultimate right/left/center/agnostic/religious fascist?
And we'll have it on paper. Or papyrus,.. even stone. As I don't know how far mighty people will go for their fortune.15 -
!rant
Going to negotiate my starting salary as a Junior Engineer/Consultant in 30 minutes.
Wish me luck!4 -
Entry level Junior Developer with experience of a Fullstack developer for a salary of an intern.
Can we add unicorns in that list?7 -
Working from third world country means getting paid just 10-20% of world wide salaries and already being happy about it, because your salary is still 4 times higher than other local ones.
Silly wishes for career. To achieve getting paid 90%+ of the salary in the next close years. Or at least 50%.
Some of the local people continue work for 10% salary all their career life here... I wonder why? Why not to fight for your place in the world?10 -
What a sad and frustrating day!
I got a call from recruiter. I told him that I'm not actively looking for change. But he requested for 2 mins to listen. He started telling about his company, how great it is, tech stack, perks, salary etc. He is telling everything but not company name, I waited patiently and asked what's the pay I can expect. The number blew my mind, it's nearly double to my current pay. Then...
Me: that sounds amazing, which company is this, and where is it?
Him: it is <my company name> and located at <my current location, same campus>
Me: .....
Him: so, what do you think?
Me: .... I need some time. Let me update my LinkedIn profile first and then, i will get back to you.
Him: sounds wonderful, will call back by Monday. <Call disconnected>
Me: <inside my head> @$_-$#(/+&_#
This in my 10th year in this company, some one kill me please.5 -
Being paid as a 'junior software developer' at the average salary for that with all these responsibilities
That's a funny joke13 -
I think i made a costly fuckup!
Last month i was called into the cabin of main boss and i believe he reviewed my work and gave me a slight increment in salary.
Only today that i noticed about missing increment in my last month's salary i received last week.
Only thing I'm sure is that i remember feeling happy that day and telling about my increment to my coworkers. They don't remember about it now.
I have no proof if i actually received increment or if i am just hallucinating..
What to do? 😕9 -
$5.625/hour.
Thats the offer.
$5.625/hour.
Thats $900/month.
To work as a:
- devops engineer
Then also as a:
- backend java engineer
And now also as a:
- .NET engineer too
Due to inflation the food and all the bills and expenses in my bullshit country is $800-900/month and increasing.
This salary is not for living.
This salary is for survival.
Do you think
It is
MORAL
To earn salary
Working 2 or 3 dev jobs as 1 person
As a backend/devops software engineer
With computer science degree
In todays economy
In todays inflation
?23 -
Hey guys, I was wondering how much you're paid per month, how long have you been a dev and where you're from.
Personally, FR here paid 1500€ ($1700) +- for 3 years XP.59 -
I kept telling my boss my salary wasn't good enough for the job I was doing, and for over a year, he kept telling me HR says I need to prove myself. I got admission to school to do a masters and all of a sudden, HR doubled my salary. FML.2
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Building an amazingly complex system from scratch in Rust means 2 things to me...
1. Really cool tech with great syntax to learn
2. My value as a developer will be going up a lot. In terms of the salary expectations
I really love when I get to learn a new technology, not for a project or course, but to build really cool real-world applications.
That’s what drives me!5 -
Never ask:
- 👩 A woman — her age
- 👨 A man — his salary
- 🏥 German pharmaceutical companies — how do they know about effects on pregnant women3 -
Well, a question and then a statement.
Interviewer: ”What would you say about [salary here]?”
Me, completely incapable of bargaining: ”Well, maybe I would like it a bit higher...?”.
Interviewer: ”Policy states we start at [same salary]”
Me, still incapable. ”Alright then! I’ll take the job!”
Later same day when turning down the other jobs I was simultaneously in the process of aquiring.
Contact from other firm: ”Sorry to hear that. I hope the reason wasn’t salary, because we could have solved that.”
Me: *Sigh*
Well, the reason wasn’t the money, but maybe the reason for choosing the other job COULD have been money. Oh well...1 -
When the Internet starts to slow down near lunch and your music starts to buffer.
Cut my salary in half, but give me music.3 -
It's really sad how companies in UAE misusses the internship term, and make the poor interns do full time job with minimum or no salary.4
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Why is it that when a job ad a recruiter sends has a salary range and they then ask your current salary and expected salary, they're shocked when you want a substantial increase in salary when it's still within the range they posted for the role. Sure it's more than 20% of my current job but if the new job can pay more than that and they say they can why should I lowball? Why does my current salary matter for the new jobs salary?19
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*Outsourcing DevOps Company*
> HR got a call from a customer
> Got my contract terminated immediately
> HR and my boss trying to explain to me about the situation
> The customer is one of BIG GIANT conglomerate in my country and high expectations AF
> My boss wants me in the team
> HR denied due to headcount and limited budget from investors
> CEO pay me for the whole 2 months in salary in compensation including unused vacation under the national labour law right away after signing an acknowledge form
> HR told me if I go to the new company, don't forget to tell them about referring
This all happens under 30 minutes after a normal working friday
What a shock
PS. It's a nice DevOps outsourcing company in both working culture and technical TBH6 -
I got placed with decent salary in core Product based company. Happiness is at its peak 😄😆 .
#campusPlacement12 -
Simply having a university degree is not a reasob for a bigger salary comapred to a non degree. Its just a school where you learn some of the stuff you need on the job. Therefore if you prove that you know the same it is the same. Same work same salary.17
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Love development
Like the people I work with including the boss
Okay with the salary I guess
Fucking hate the customers -
The 19th day each month is the German unofficial "tax payer day". Because we start working for our own salary, not for taxes...9
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Companies that expect interns to work for free since they are learning at the job. sincerely fuck off!8
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was asked if i want stock options during an interview so i said i just care about my salary
fuck my nervous-mode self2 -
It bothers me when potential employers *require* a salary expectation in your application. It's like they're focusing on the wrong parts. I don't even consider places that do that, no matter how cool the job sounds. Remember kids, in negotiations, the first one to mention a number loses.5
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Yesterday, I asked for a double raise of my salary from mine p.manager.
I told him that I had an offer from another company with double salary.So we discussed the possibilities to have a good raise without changing company. He told me that can't be sure for my salary plan, but he will try to do the best.
I am still working in same company with same salary.
Who was bluffing better? 😑6 -
Figured I'd post for some advice here and see if anybody has had previous experience or success with a situation like this.
My team is generally comprised of full-stack developers completing front-end custom work on sites, writing back-end tools, and fixing broken sites. We are a rapid-response DEV team, and we typically turn around any custom requests in less than 5 days and fix any broken sites on the same day as they were reported. We manage almost 15,000 sites across multiple countries, and deal with very large corporations that many of you interact with every day (I'm trying to be cryptic here hahaha.) There are 16 of us on our team, and we are the only DEV team within our department of 500+ people. We are also the only DEV team taking requests from these 500+ people. The way the department works, we are the final say on whether a specific piece of custom work will get completed or not, and we are the go-to people when anybody has a question about our system infrastructure or if our system can accommodate a request, along with how to fix any broken pieces of our platform. We typically get about 150 requests per day. Lately, the entire team has become unhappy with our compensation for the work we do. We're quite underpaid, and they keep giving us more responsibilities without any sort of extra compensation. We've discovered that there are a large amount of non-developers below us that are getting paid more than we are. We've found that we get paid about $15,000 less than a comparable DEV team in a different department (let's call that team DEV_2,) just because of which department our team exists within, and how our department defined our job back when this position was created a few years ago. Ever since the position was created, our team's responsibilities have exponentially increased. We believe that there is absolutely no reason that an entry-level position below us should get paid just as much, or even more in some cases, than a developer. Of course, we're not asking to pay them less. Instead, we've decided that we're going to bring this up with our manager and schedule a meeting with him, our Department Director, and Human Resources, and voice that we believe that we should be on the same payscale as the comparable DEV_2 in the other department.
To be a good developer on our team, you need to not only have coding expertise, but also an encyclopedic knowledge of what you can do within our platform without any coding. You need this knowledge so you can pass it along to any people in positions below you, in case they didn't know that something could be done without custom code.
We're going to argue that if it weren't for our team, the company would be losing millions of dollars in clients, because people wouldn't have anybody to go to for platform infrastructure questions, broken websites, or custom work. Instead, they would need to send these requests to the DEV_2 team, which currently take about 6 months to turnaround requests. Like I said, we are a rapid-response DEV team, and these particular clients think that a 5 day turnaround time is ridiculous. If they had to wait 6 months for their request to be completed, they would cancel their contracts.
Not to mention the general loss of knowledge if the members of our team went to a different department, which would be catastrophic for our current department. Believe me, this department could not function without this DEV team. If we all went on vacation for a week, the place would be on fire by the time we got back, and many clients would be lost.
Do any of you have any experience with a situation like this, and if so, how did it turn out? Thank you!5 -
Hi, what is the average salary of developers in your country.
For me : i'm junior UI/UX designer and front end developer in Paris, working for Parisian digital consulting agency 35hrs a week
Annual salary 30k €
Adding to this :
Daily meal ticket 8,8€
Insurance
50% of transport ticket's price is refunded
And many other stuffs and don't even remember.
Knowing that Paris is an expensive city.
How about you people ?22 -
Annual inflation rate = 9.2%.
My annual salary increase = 5.5% (from my meager salary as junior)
Thanks management 🤡👍6 -
Advertise junior level salary then proceed to reject you since they're *looking for someone more senior*
🙄3 -
Best: My projects are working, I could get a great salary
Worst: I'm working for a school project and I have no time.2 -
Recruiter Expecation:
Must have all the experience of a senior developer, but be content with the salary of a junior.2 -
Almost three years with the same salary. And my LinkedIn inbox full.
I'm really starting to think about going for a change...8 -
I am torn apart for several months now. My boss and coworkers are amazing people, projects are quite fun and interesting, workplace is close to home and they pay for my exams (step by step reaching for MCSD certification), but...
The salary if fcking low (you could probably earn same ammount while working as a waitress of normal restaurant). Not only for me of course, but still :( Now I am thinking of running to some bank and doing boring programming job coding same tasks again and again, but getting payed very well4 -
TLDR;
How much do you earn for your skill set in your country vs your cost of living?
BONUS;
See how much I & others earn.
Recently I became aware of just how massive the gap in developers earnings are between countries. I'd love to calculate a fixed score for income vs cost of living.
I know this stuff is sensitive to some so if you prefer just post your score (avg income p/m after tax / cost of living).
I'm not shy so I'll go first:
MY RATES
Normal Rate (Long term): $23
Consulting / Short term: $30-$74
Pen Test: $1500 once off.
Pen Test Fixes: consulting rate.
Simple work/websites: min $400+
Family & Friends: Dev friends are usually free (when mutually beneficial). Family and others can fuck off, even if they can pay (I pass their info to dev friends with fair warning).
GENERAL INFO
Experience: 9 years
Country: South Africa
Developer rareness in country: Very Rare (+-90 job openings per job seeker).
Middle class wage in country: $1550 p/m (can afford a new car, decent apartment & some luxuries like beer/eating out).
Employment type: Permanent though I can and do freelance occasionally.
Client Locality: Mostly local.
Developer Type: Web Developer (True web dev - I do anything web related from custom HTTP servers to sockets, services, advanced browser api's, apps & more).
STACKS / SKILLSETS
I'M PROFICIENT IN:
python, JavaScript, ASP classic, bash, php, html, css, sql, msql, elastic search, REST, SOAP, DOM, IIS, apache
I DABBLE WITH:
ASP.net, C++, ruby, GO, nginx, tesseract
MY SPECIALTIES:
application architecture, automation, integrations, db's, real time data, advanced browser apps/extensions (webRTC, canvas etc).
SUMMARY
Avg income p/m after tax: $2250
Cost of living (car+rent+food): $1200
Score: 1.85
*Note: For integrity when calculating my cost of living I excluded debt repayments and only kept my necessities which are transport, food & shelter.
I really hope you guy's post your results, it would be great to get an idea of which is really the worst / best country to be a developer in.20 -
"We regret to inform that there will be a slight delay in processing the Dec 2019 salary"
When you get this mail at the very end of the year! 😵8 -
So I was lurking around stack overflow and this comes up.
It's very interesting and stuff but seems a bit unfair. They're literally the same position8 -
A lot of people posting their goal is a higher salary. So my goal will be to: create a program of value that enables me to collect a percentage of your higher salary.
Why thank you very much!2 -
Hi DevRanters!
I got this react gig earlier this year, its pay is $280/month ($70/week), its a relatively new startup yet to launch though. i was tasked with building landing page and dashboard for user and admin.
Since the company is about to launch, myself and the ceo had a talk concerning salary and he's proposing a salary lower than the one stated above.
Please for a relatively new startup how much do you think is ideal for salary?
What do I do if we couldn't reach an agreement?
Asking for a friend. Thanks.19 -
I've just came to the end of my probation in a new role... Been told I've passed it already... But just raised an interesting typo in my original offer letter....
Instead of saying a
"pay increase up to £#####"
it says a
"pay rise OF £#####"
Upon completing your probation
So in half a mind to ask when I'll see my salary more than doubled like the offer letter says!3 -
That moment when your company switches developers from salary to hourly to avoid paying anyone more and skirts the new federal requirements.7
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Prequel to my previous post:
I received an offer from a startup that did not meet the originally advertised salary range. In every other aspect this place seemed like where I'd enjoy working the most and each previous interaction made a very good impression on me. So needless to say this was quite a shock.
They immediately apologised and explained the situation. They only now started to expand to and hire from my location (which can be verified) and I would be the very first person from this location (seems true too but I could only really verify this after joining). They explained the salary range I had seen was for their main hub location (accurate too) and said that the recruiter who posted the ad did not adjust it to mine. I asked why tf they didn't notify me of this earlier and they said they are super busy with everything, are new to location based salaries and normally don't check the recruiters posts as it should be her work.
Now, even if this is totally true, it was an awful sudden shock and felt a bit like a scam - totally contradicting my previous impressions.
Here are a couple of other points that I'll just sum to save time:
- before seeing the job ad I had a *reasonable* salary expectation even lower than their actual offering
- on the ad, the bottom end of their salary range far exceeded my reasonable exp.
- the relative level of my position would be even higher up the range that I have seen realised would be top 5%
- having had seen the ad, I started to have an *ideal* expectation being the bottom of the range
- in first interview I told them my exp. is the bottom end of their range +- a bit
- I told this to a dev guy who has no fucking idea about this stuff and I don't blame him but he noted this down to higher management
- generally I have not been very precise of my expectation as previously I only had lower class dev jobs, this would be the first decent.
- Hence I have seen an enormously high variation in salaries offered to me so this advertised range whilst high seemed possible
Now, with all this in mind I posted here a question about what some of you would do in my position.
I received the following group of responses:
- it's a scam, bad place, run
- it's an intentional (common) trick
- people make mistakes like this esp. startups so find out if this is intentional or not
- just decide if their current offering is reasonable for the position and location, ignore the rest
- just decide if the amount is enough
- location based salaries are retarded, don't work there (I kinda agree and also don't)
- if they can afford the higher pay in another place they should have no prob. meeting the range
- it's more important that you'd enjoy it there if the pay is sufficient for general needs
- company culture is generally more important these days
- fuck recruiters and hr people (amen to that btw)
Here is what I did:
Regardless of whether I believe them or not I hyperfocused on the potential scam/trick aspect.
I told them that every other interaction with them was positive and would love to join them but this was a really bad impression and feels like they are playing with me. I made up some bullshit previous examples of companies trying the same trick on me (which obv. never happened).
Then I said that I think to resolve this they should invite me to their main office for a day (all interviews had been online) and if after that they are still not ok to offer me at least the bottom of the adv. range then we can part ways. Otherwise this should ensure both of us that we are a good match, etc.
They seemed to love the idea and said that I should go there for x till y (3 days) and if we don't hate each other by the end I'll get the amount at the bottom of the range and they apologised again about it looking like a scam, etc.
So thanks a bunch again to those of you who provided valuable input. -
I kept asking my manager for a salary rise for about the last 2 months and he didn't do anything about it so I searched for a new job and I found it! I noticed my manager that I am going to leave, he promised that starting from next month he will increase my salary... Aaaand he didn't...
So I decided to increase my own salary by reducing the working hours lol.4 -
Why do German companies hate paying interns decent wages?
I just had an interview for an internship at a decently funded startup, and they proposed MINIMUM WAGE as a salary. Acted like it was the most normal thing in the world, too.
I do have a Bachelor’s degree in Software Engineering and some actual working experience as a developer, yet they suggested they’d pay me even less than that if they were legally allowed to. Is that their way of saying they don’t want me after all? They did invite me to a second interview.
I get that interns generally aren’t as productive as senior devs who spend years on a certain project, but minimum wage? Fuck that!
Luckily, they’re just the first company I talked to, but I do feel a little offended.15 -
I asked for increasing my salary, she said they can allow me for overtime for getting more money like increasing my salary (They asks overtime everyday btw)1
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some friend asked me today:
is it ok to lie to boss and say that I had a new job offer.. just to negotiate on the salary?
Me: post question on devrant13 -
New folks, learn functional programming. Avoid the stupid pain with OOP and mutability. Pays off a lot and for ffs, increase your salary demand, don't lowball, so everyone can enjoy higher pay.43
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I currently have my dream job as a web developer, with a little above average salary, good colleagues and an understanding boss.
Today I had a recruiter contact me with a job opportunity (Senior developer) that would easily net me 1.5 times more salary, and a lot of other advantages.
It almost hurts to say no.4 -
It saddens me to see there are developers who are driven by high pay over interest and passion for programming.6
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Creating a popular SaaS while it itself being easily maintainable and generates an average monthly salary 😁
Santa... Please can I haz?1 -
Let's do a simple research here. What is the average fresh graduate salary as a programmer in your country.
In Hong Kong, it is around 2000USD21 -
A client I've been working with was supposed to pay me for $710, a pay for my two-month work for two of his projects.
He called me today saying that he could only pay $179 and that I need to wait for my unpaid salary. This guy is a friend of mine and he lowkey gives me access to his Netflix account, so I don't really know how to feel.
Do I get mad? Do I laugh it off?
Any same experience here?9 -
Frustrated... had a signed job offer disappear right before start date after jumping through a ton of hoops, turning down a competing offer, and wasting 3 days of PTO on their process, so back to interviews again.
How do you all determine what salary to ask/look for? Current job has pretty concrete pay bands that I'm pretty sure aren't market, but most of the site (glassdoor, etc) are all OVER the place, as titles can get so fuzzy from one place to another. From people I know I've heard everything from 20k less than I make to 70k more than I make (moderately high COL area, but not CA level). Levels.io seemed promising, but the one FANG offer I had didn't nearly match up with there, so I'm not sure how much of that is bluster or whatever... Blegh. I absolutely hate job hunting.6 -
My Technical lead always asks one question to new interviewing candidates. "Write a SQL query to find the second highest salary from employee salary table". It's the same question which he faced in one interview and he didn't have answered it.
Sorry for my bad English..3 -
Average salary for developers these days: 700$/month + 10% of the company once said developer creates the new Facebook.6
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Why don’t you like sharing your salary with coworkers? I tell people exactly what I am paid if the conversation comes up. It helps to know where you stand, i.e. if you’re being under paid or if you should ask for more in the next review cycle.6
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How do you ask a co worker about their salary? Heard from one of our new hires that he asked for considerably more than what I started at, but I'm not sure if he was referring to his base salary or total value of compensation. It would boost my confidence considerably if I knew what I could be asking for. Hell even getting that as a starting would be quite a step up.18
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Are you willing to share details of your salary, or for contractors your daily/hourly rate? If you're not, that's interesting to know too.
Interesting to know;
- Currency (hopefully obviously)
- Location of work (or if remote, primary location of employer?)
- Contract type (FT/PT employee, contractor/freelancer)
- Job title (or general activity for contractors)
- Number of years in role/contracting
- Whether or not you would or have shared your salary with a co-worker (perhaps you're willing to share here but not with a co-worker)
- Gender
The 'Why is it soooo taboo to ask co-workers salary?' question made me think about this (https://devrant.com/rants/1557306/...)8 -
!rant
TLDR; time to look for alternatives
Had a negotiation appointment with our CTO recently, due to the fact that I am going to finish my apprenticeship by the current year. As I heard from colleagues that the average pay for a finished apprentice isn't really the best, I wanted to try myself at bargaining it a bit higher.. So we went into the meeting and I brought up my argument, bossman just shrugs it off as laughable and that he can do it 100x better, so why should I define my pay on that.. The appointment was just very uncomfortable after that, no appreciation of my efforts at all. Not like I already work like a normal employee just with a quarter of the pay 😑2 -
I work in huge corporation. Got an offer for smaller company and gave 2 week notice. My corporation offered me better base salary and retention bonus to stay. I accepted (mistake) and now they are not coming back with retention bonus or salary increase. I found out they did same trick with different person. Wtf... huge corporation is doing those kind of shenanigans?6
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TFW your boss likes you enough to set up a full-time offer for you. 😗
TFW the offer is $20K below the average salary. 😬 -
Yey I got a raise. From 55,000 to 56,500 annually. Go Junior me! Hahahaha. Not enough for California though but I’m grateful.10
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Programming is stressful. I feel like I'm 50 years old already with white hairs. What non technical job have high salary but lesser stress?6
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Teacher or Developer ?
1. Teaching: more free time, less salary
2. Developing: less free time, more salary
But I need both time and money, now what ?6 -
I found a budget salary for dev with 4-5 YOE in 2011 in my company, digging through internal old docs.
Assuming 2% increase per year, the 2023 budget salary is now EUR 15k more than what average dev get in my company.
I remember that someone mentioned similar thing in other socmed where he found through internal docs, salary for his position 10 years ago and now are the same, totally neglecting inflation.
On the other hand house/property values has doubled within 10 years.
How can we pressure companies to give us appropriate salary?
When I ask for increase, they will just say no because it's the market rate, but the market rate sucks.5 -
I was talking with my mom on messenger and right after the moment I told her to stop believing in advertisement and not clicking on everything on the net... I saw a job ad on Instagram
"*cool company from my home country* front end developer for 3000 - 5000euro/month based on experience"
(which is a pretty good salary there, the avg is around 900euro/month)
me: *clicks*1 -
The DataTables homepage has an example table where some "senior JavaScript developer" has a salary of $433k
Lmao 433k Zimbabwe dollars maybe.2 -
Id happily give up 10% of any prospective salary if it meant that my job hunting was handled by an agent who is somewhat competent in the concepts of programming and primarily motivated to secure the highest possible salary for me. Humanity is really good at figuring out how to delegate tasks so that individuals can specialize. Why can't I specialize in programming and delegate salesmanship?4
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!dev
Just switched from a rent that is below 10% of my salary to a solid 20% one. I feel somehow bad, although the size is much better.
How much do you pay for housing compared to you salary, guys?17 -
1- hope that Madagascar will be listed in Google Play when I try to register as a developer... 😭
2- upload many applications on Play Store 😍
3- working as an android developer with an average salary of $50,000 per year, not my actual shitty salary of $4,500 per year... 😒
4- Earn the Associate Android Developer Certification 😎 🙌3 -
OK my salary as medical doctor went into shit, Im not joking im in ASEAN 3rd world country
SWITCHING TO DATA ENGINEER
wish me luck19 -
If everyone in the job market would be paid the same salary.
What job you would've chosen which is not programming?12 -
when your teammates warn that we're now doing what used to be product's job but we're not getting additional salary3
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I'm convinced that the PRODUCTION servers can smell your long-awaited salary appraisals from a mile away.
#FML -
My company listed an opening for Sr. IT manager with top end at 62k. I would think this is really low for the top end. Thoughts?5
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Has anyone else noticed salaries dropping a bit for devs on job listings? Seems to be 20k less a year than they were advertising before!
Recession hitting it seems!6 -
[Background]
Back in September I joined a startup after my first job in MNC for about 1.8 yrs as a fresher. I always wanted to learn, but the experience in that MNC was not at all fruitful. So ai decided to join a small/mid size company or a startup. To my luck, I got in this small startup in a week after my resignation as a front-end dev (always wanted to be).
It's an automation company, so you can find software, electronics, even mechanical engineer.
The team was almost a year younger than me. It was a team of around 12 people, in which 5 of them were from Business development.
The tech team was too driven and knowledgeable. Always trying new stuffs and motivating to do the same. I was highly motivated by them in my initial days, watching them working on new stuffs.
So I started with revamping their website completely in Angular 4, and did it in around a month or so, being new to Angular. Outcome was pretty satisfactory. I wanted to work on new projects, but just to get the cashflow in they started getting in WordPress projects. It was frustrating, I wanted to work more on new technologies like Angular, React, etc...but just for the survival of the company I had to work on WordPress, so to respect their urge to get going I kept working on 3-4 projects in parallel, and mind you the clients were from hell !!
Fast-forward 4 months, I am still working on few WordPress websites, and one internal GPS based project in React. And I haven't received my salary for past 3.5 months, since the company is still struggling with the issue of funding and getting money from clients. I kinda liked working there because there was lot to learn even though they are so young, but I had bills to pay too.
And I am in dilemma to leave the company or not, because I already stretched 3 months out of good will and guilt of leaving the company in high time. So i finally let the CEO know that I cannot stick for any longer. And i was done with the false promises of getting the salary "next month" everytime. All the money getting inside of company was invested heavily on the product we were building and no one was getting the salaries. Others were fine since they were founding members too.
Long story short : I finally left immediately and now working in a good company as a React dev. I hope they do well and I would love to see them grow, but please *STOP* making false promises and hold on to employees on a lie.1 -
Suddenly you got demotivated when you came to know your level colleague have higher salary then your...4
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Few months back I got a decent increment as a token of appreciation for my good work.
Yesterday we all received a Special townhall meeting invitation.
We all were wondering what it was about. Now my colleague who sits beside was guessing that it may be about a salary revision and she complained that she didn't get any increment last time.
Inner me: Why the heck company should increment your salary for the shitty work you do.
You are simply incapable of doing what you are supposed to do.
You spend more time talking crap rather than trying to learn and use it to write some non shitty code.
You should be thankful to the company for not firing you.1 -
Ranted about this before, but...
>have likely ADHD
>poor performance
>can't get raise because of poor performance
>can't afford treatment because low salary
It sucks.2 -
So I am finishing school this year and I want to study computer science after that. They keep telling us at information events that a salary of 90.000+ €/year is quite usual for a good programmer...
I'm just wondering if it is really true or are they just talking bullshit? Does anyone have some experience or information for me? :)9 -
Scope creep and hidden requirements. Project seemed to get bigger every week. 4 months salary for 7~9 months of actual work.
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So my recruiter decided to calc his own bruto salary(gross) over my netto one...
Turns out he missed about 800 euro in his conversion ratio... Motherfucker ... That sets me back 5 years in salary u asshole 😶 -
In light of this week's topic - I need your thoughts. I am planning to quit my current job. In your experience, should I have another job before quitting or look for it full time. I just got my appraisal - will the salary at the new job match my increased salary or would it be the same. Note, I have only 1 year experience.6
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Company not giving my salary on time and waiting for it to arrive. Worrying about paying rent and stuff is not doing good for my focus.1
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Well I ended up getting two jobs through my college so now I've gotta pick between:
- A legacy maintenance job with a better environment and salary, for a minimum of two years.
OR
-An IT based job with a lower salary but no fixed initial working period.
Advice devRanters?
PS: I am in debt because I took a loan for college tuition. 😐
*Confused*6 -
just out of session organized by HR to inculcate "change" in our corporate "culture", still waiting for a salary change.
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My salary. They came back with a solid counteroffer on what was supposed to be my last day and here I am.7
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Ability to find jobs with better salary and less workload. I am tired of working 2 hours and pretending to work 6 hours mire.
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Devs around the world, raise your salary, if you know your shit. Don't lowball, if they hesitate find someone else who will.
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I life on Peru, and all works that I find with English language as requirements only pays the 50% of the real salary. Aff!2
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TFW a recruiter tells you you're "reaching" in terms of salary juuussst because he doesn't have anything in the range you're asking for.
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Salary Transparency Post
Title:Salary:Experience:Location
DevSecOps
110k
2 yrs in DevOps/ 5yrs total
US/Midwest
I am over or underpaid?6 -
Procrastinating and ending up winning a months salary from gambling with crypto. Not sure how I should feel about this..3
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Was invited to interview by agent for 1yr contract position. Was accepted for permament position with bigger salary instead. Now I’m an Unix Infrastructure Engineer
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If you apply to a company for a web dev job and their website is a one pager that absolutely sucks and the content written gives the impression they dont know what they are doing should u aim high or low in the expected salary question 🧐4
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So I got offered 85k job in NYC. The interviews went well and they were impressed with all my answers. Now here's the deal.
I have 2 years of good software development experience in.my home country and then moved to USA for further studies. Now graduated this May.
Not sure if 85k(including all perks) is the right amount ? Or negotiate it to make it 90k...5 -
I heard in Switzerland Zürich the salary of a beginner junior dev is not below 100k. Is this true?10
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Another curious question.
How much is your hour worth? In average. Mine is no more than $10/hr and probably $5/hr sometimes.
Whether freelance hours or full time salary. So I will know how low are dev getting in my country. And then probably I can cry myself to sleep. 😁5 -
Saturday 9:30am
Interview: #1
Company: A
Salary: they have no idea how much is a devops engineer paid, but they're looking for a devops engineer asap
Monday 9:30am
Interview: #1
Company: B
Salary: up to $50/hour for devops position
Tuesday 10:00am
Interview: #487 (final one with clients now)
Company: C
Salary: $6.25/hour for backend java + devops position3 -
Why would she contact me for a job that needs ASAP attention and not show up after I gave her my salary expectation, I bet she is expecting a $1-$2 salary expectation from me, crazy recruiters I wonder if there's a university for that shit,
Hi guys, another recruiter shit!!!!1 -
What do you guys think about conditional salary?
Today I got a 18% raise. I'll get another 18% (on the old salary) as soon as I pass the Salesforce Platform Developer 1 certification.
I'm pretty excited as this puts me in control of my salary to some extent. What do you guys think?11 -
Do you ever feel like no matter how much money you earn it just.. doesn't seem enough because you see certain people around you who earn even more? Whenever i hear my in-laws say 'oh that guy earns this much, this guy earns this much', i feel kinda low...19
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"16$/h [CAD] is a decent salary in this market [small town]"
*requires 5 years of experience*
*wonders why there's a recruitment problem* -
Any swiss devs here?
What'd you say is a realistic annual salary in zurich at the moment for a senior backend (java) engineer with 10+ years of experience?
My online research shows somewhere between 110k-135k for bigger companies, is that realistic?8 -
I guess days lile today, where hard work and solid effort is rewarded with a promotion and a sizeable increase in salary.
Feels good man -
Hello Guys,
I am feeling stressed right now.
I have completed 4 Years of Working and I am getting paid very less, it's not like I don't work hard but still due to Covid our salary have being same for last 1.5 years, and this is making me frustrated.
I am responsible for many things in current organization and don't want to run from responsibility but yet I am sole earner of my family. These thoughts are making me stressed , help me decide what I should do.
I feel shy to ask for raise.6 -
TL;DR: what salary would you give a mid or senior Symfony fullstack dev. What would you ask during interviews?
We're currently looking into hiring a fullstack Symfony dev, focus on frontend. Expirience wise it should be a mid to senior role, as I'm the only other dev. We're looking for someone remote, so don't really care where they're comming from.
What salary would you deam apropriate? And what would you ask them in an interview? Any other things to consider?13 -
Don't just think starting salary - think about your income over the course of your working life.
Your starting salary might be high - but it might mean that your ceiling after that is quite low. If you reach your ceiling too soon, you'll have to retrain to get more dough.
Retraining is starting again and might not jive very well with a partner and children in tow.3 -
My friend went to upper management for a rise for one of his underlings.
He said he have been relentless and in the end he walked out with 10% rise for himself and nothing for his guy.2 -
17,000 USD a year?! That's outrageously high (for a Philippino)!! This dev must either be a god or they're ripping us off!
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What kind of apartment could a typical programmer afford in New York?
I am from Europe and don't consider moving to the US. I am just curious31 -
What's a reasonable salary for a Junior Web Dev with 3 years experience in London?
PHP
MYSQL
HTML
CSS
Javascript
Thanks12 -
At a salary of $11/hour, no overtime, is a junior web developer with no previous experience and no personal project undervalued?25
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I joined a company when 18yro. I am from Vocational High School take Software Engineering.
...
My friend at workplace joined the company with label as a fresh graduate from university.
...
We work.
...
Me become a PIC of a project. And my friend still code something easy and unused by the company.
...
We got our first salary. And what the hell is going on, his salary 2x of mine.
...
Welcome to Indonesia, skill is doesn't matter with your salary. They look for the fahking scroll.9 -
Bossman called me up the other day, asked if I had looked at courses and told me I should think about signing up in September.
Thing is, I don't have a degree or anything beyond a high school diploma, since I'm self taught and got hired because of my ability to learn fast and my portfolio, and I told them I'd consider looking at a two year program.
But I don't want to have to be doing coursework after work, and besides, if I do a course, I want to do so because I wanted it... Sad thing is, yearly review is coming up in a month and I worry my salary is gonna stay where it started... Which is not great :S
Any thoughts?5 -
Question: Should I stay in my current role, ask for a pay rise, or find somewhere new?
Situation:
Right now, I'm effectively doing a lead developer role for half the salary of the other member of my team- I'm code reviewing their work (which often has many many errors in it), creating and assigning tickets for both myself and them and engaging in many meetings with senior staff in the company. The other dev in my team has more experience on paper, but the amount of work they are generating is approximately 1/5th of what I produce. I'm really disappointed that when I raised this with my manager & then HR, they have seeming done nothing about the situation. It's really disheartening and it feels as though I'm not really valued.
I don't really have much loyalty to the company, but because I have helped build their internal system from scratch I'd loathe to leave it in the incompetent hands of my colleague (who at present still has a month left of probation).
I can give any further info if you'd like it but I could really do with some advice right now.6 -
So I've got a relationship related question (thought I'd ask it here since developers usually tend to earn more than country average salary).
My boyfriend feels bad that he must work more while earning less money. He gets to see my work every day (we have desks side by side) and watch me have this cool job with almost no pressure. He feels unjust and upset about it (which I totally understand). He also mentioned that he's not angry at me, but at the system xd
Any tips to how to comfort him? I know it might be the wrong app to ask this question, but I thought someone else might have a similar situation 🙂5 -
As a big company CTO will you hire developers from Africa. And how much will you recommend as starting salary .2
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just sharing* Singapore developer market-rates 2016 for different skillset. what are your thoughts, please share.
link:
https://vulcanpost.com/581278/...3 -
DevRanters, which one would u choose?
Marginal increase in salary and climb up the corporate ladder.
OR
Substantial increase in salary but climb down the corporate ladder.11 -
!rant
Imagine your company would spend 100$ more per employee to rent a bigger, nicer office. Imagine how much additional space you'd have there. Maybe individual offices for everybody, or at least not more than two or three employees per office? Telephone booths for long calls, or a library to work in absolute silence, to do research, or to study something new there.
How would that affect your productivity and overall happiness? How much better you'd feel there? How much more relaxed would you be? How much less sick days would you have, and how much money would your company save resp. make more due to higher productivity?
Or would you rather have a salary raise of 100$?3 -
Joined a new company few days back and found out that colleague with very less experience than mine is at a very higher salary..
How to politely convey ur boss to match the salary..4 -
I hate it when you work your ass off for the company product and they don’t even care to send the salary on time. I mean how can you expect your developers to be productive when you don’t even let them have their monthly dose of dopamine. Sometimes this delay can extend to more than one month so young developers out there, please make your decision wisely.3
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[A thread for those who are curious]
Is monthly salary of USD 4,500 a below average or average salary in your country?
For a software engineer (full stack) (regardless of tech stack), experience more than 5 years.
(Please do let me know where you from as well, just want to know)
In my country (Malaysia) it is consider above average.8 -
So I'm about to get a job offer
For some context, I live in a low tax country and my gross salary is 56k (incl bonus). I take home about 3600 per month. And there's a 10% bonus
Next month I have a raise to 61k and will take home 4000.
I just finished a few interviews with a very interesting company in another country and the recruiter says they are offering max 66k.
Problem is, it's in a high tax country (Sweden) . So that 66k means take home pay of 3600... That's a 9% pay cut over what I will make starting next month.
Now I'm not sure how to approach this. I calculated what I want (10-15% raise over my current - next month's - salary and the number is *way* higher: 90k.. This means take home 4600 (15% increase)
I also calculated what it would take to match my employer and even that is much higher at 77k.
The recruiter asked me what they would need to offer me for me to accept and says max budget is 66k. This is of course after I told him 66k would net me less than I make now...
There's also the possibility of working remotely (as a contractor I am guessing) from where I am, and I think in that case the 66k would net me roughly the same as my employer, but I'm not sure as there might be additional costs.
But being a contractor means the employer doesn't pay any tax contributions for me, right? I calculated they would be paying 22k tax (on top of 66k salary) which as I understand is freed up. If that's the case maybe I should be asking for more (as contractor)?
How do I approach this? Anyone been in a similar situation?16 -
Here's a question that I still don't know how to respond.
What's the expected salary of a front end developer?
In euros please.6 -
Good salary
Good sleep
Good family
You can only pick 2 and you don't get what you didn't pick.
What're you picking?17 -
Been supporting the marketing department for 9 months. And they didn't make any revenue/traction.
Now I'm missing my pay upgrade because of that :/1 -
some of us should start hacking to bring power back to developers again.
https://businessinsider.com/tech-la...2 -
Seeing the US pay for IT people compared to UK and damn the difference is insane. Given the UK healthcare is free, I wouldn't see its usage until old age, and the costs of US vary greatly but most places US pays a lot. For e.g. Airbnb in US pays graduate IT people 200k USD starting while the highest I've seen for IT people in London is 46k GBP, which even after conversion is waay less, and the tax amount if about the same if not more in UK. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I've seen, maybe I should consider moving to the states :/.5
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How much do you earn if you work professionally. Include experience and position.
Me:
50 h per month student type job as a web dev mostly frontend, 1 year and 3 months of professional experience - 1300euro/ month17 -
I just learned that the senior in my team earns more after taxes than my gross salary (medior) per month :(
While he is a full remote worker from a country where the average salary is 60% of my countries average salary.
While i'm certainly happy for his salary... My salary does not look correct compared to his2 -
I'm quite happy with my job as a full stack web developer, but I'd like to have a raise.
Is there any reliable source helping me finding out what I'm worth? I have no idea how much more I can ask from my boss.
Living and working in germany btw.9 -
Many years in the same company waiting for an improvement in my career. Result: role change from Solution Manager to ICT consultant (better before) and Salary increase of 20% (better now). I simply do not understand my company behavior. Happy and Sad at the same time. What do you think? Titles do matter or not?
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I'm not doing this for money but what's the average salary of a front-end web developper or a programmer ?
(How much do you earn ?)1 -
Just love my team and my team mates. Never had such a good team synergy before. Everybody puts in their best and gives the proper credits. No micromanagement. And if you keep delivering and have a good reason for not delivering, everything goes smoothly.
The only issue is that I want to be paid more 😂1 -
Do any of you fine people work somewhere where salaries are transparent?
By which I mean, everyone knows (or is able to find out) what everyone else earns
If so, how does it work? Whilst I'm not too bothered how much my colleagues earn (unless it's an order of magnitude more than me or something), I know some people definitely would be4 -
Could someone point out how much a React developer can make per week in Indian? Let’s say within 3 years experience. Longer than that seems not very realistic 🤔5
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How big should an entry-level salary be? Like, that person's first job ever, but they have a pretty good 1 year experience being full-stack, though no degree11
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What should be the salary expectation in Berlin Germany for a 10+ years experienced senior software engineer?7
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Tl;Dr: Would my salary sugesstion be alright? Will get a promotion. Currently salary 115k $. I would suggest between 135k - 150k $ annual salary
So I work at a large Corpo and was asked by my department Boss, if I want to take a Promotion in our Applications team as Technical Lead. I would have the same Job, but will be the Service Owner and lead the team on a functional base. Would be 5 People. Personal Leadership would still be trough my superior.
Im alright with that, I currently dont want to lead people, but teaching them how to do it like I do right now is fine with me. Also most of the time when Shit hits the Fan Im on the call already to fix a critical Bug.
I trust my boss alot and was always treated fair by her. My currently salary is at 115k annual and Im 29 years old.
Currently Im studying on my Science BSc and work fulltime. I will take the promotion, because its like already now too my Job, I get payd better and not some random pen pusher will be set infront of me.
Also I could deny now all the fuck ups our Business People decide in Projects. I would have a lever more to challenge. (Parry this Peasant 🤣)
Just jumping from 115k up is my mental Challenge. I first thought about just 124k, but the responsibility is alot (Business Critical Applications). Also on the Job Market the Peers are ranging from 140k - 160k.
Im always thinking about the say, you need to be greedy sometimes yourself if its justified. Else some Manager gonna cash in the slip.
Should I suggest 135k or by your experience would you advertise higher like 145k-150k?7 -
Is glassdoors software engineer salaries acurate for Germany? I will be working near Darmstadt area, how does 65k gross for 4 years sw dev experience sound to you germans?8
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Any wordpress developer?
I have some question.
1. How many years you are working?
2. Are you freelancer or what?
3. How much earned from your job?
4. In which country?
5. Tell about job future8 -
Any advice guys, frustrated from the work.. no salary increase and low income maybe i need to create an startup business, don't know how to start..2
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I welcome this change.
https://thenewstack.io/open-source-...
Make software expensive = dev salary increase xD9 -
1) own work hours.
2) good salary.
3) programming is fun.
and most of all.
we can make an impact in other peoples life. -
I'm from Tunisia and I'm looking for opportunities in the USA. One point bothers me. What's the average salary of an entry level DevOps/SysAdmin engineer?!1
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I just recently graduated with my MBA like 8 months ago and I’m currently a mid level developer. How high of a salary increase should I expect.1
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What is the average salary for senior 5+ years experience developer with an AWS certified developer certification?8
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As developer which one do you prefer?
Your favorite job with normal salary or a disappointing job with good salary?
What's your main factor in choosing your work?4 -
If i have 2 different job offers from 2 companies and 1 offers a higher salary, should i tell the other company if they could raise the salary because i already have a more competing offer at another company?
Should i bring that up or should i just demand a higher salary and if they refuse I'll refuse their offer and accept the other company with higher offer14 -
I got more on salary last month and I not complaint about it,
But now my salary got reducted, should I complaint.?4 -
I'll be in the VFX industry. Modeling, lighting stuff.
Probably wanting to kill myself due to the potato sack worth of a salary i get -
Hello Everyone, My younger brother wants to build a career as a software developer but he is confused about which profile pays more backend or frontend in India. Can anyone suggest me which profile is better? I have checked this source https://interviewbit.com/blog/... and found the average salary of both profiles but everyone gives different answers.5
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I started working full-time almost a year ago and I make around Rs 3.5 lakh. A $100k dollar salary in US is equivalent to around Rs 10-12 Lakh in India. Realistically speaking, How long will it take before I can to get somewhere close to that number ?3
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Today I realized that developer titles at my company are only based on salary. At a certain salary level you will be promoted to senior or lead...1
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But if a private question but for whoever wants to share, how much did your first job after graduation pay? I know it depends on the country or state ofc so let me know from where to. (Not collecting data for programmers starting salaries >.> I swear >.> )9
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Need advice for salary expectations. For almost 5 years of experience in iOS Development. How much will be the salary expectation? Thank you.6
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Do you guys feel like your current salary fits your current job and your actual tasks and responsibilities?
I for example feel like my previous job was overpayed for what my actual responsibilities were and that my current job (being the first dev in a fresh start-up) is overwhelmingly underpaid for what amounts to way more and bigger tasks and responsibilities than I had at my previous job. But I'm nonetheless more happy with my current job than I ever were with my previous one.5