Here's what overthinking sounds like -

My mom was watching me coding on VSCode and said - You just type things in colors and get paid.

I thought - wow i never thought about it that way. For me it's syntax highlighting but to someone else it's writing code in colors.

This must be the same way for butchers where they don't think how precious life is - killing animals is just a part of their job.

Same with child traffickers - They don't care about human lives or emotions. It's a job for them to do what they do.

Same with military generals or assassins.

Interesting take, but it might explain a lot.

I don't really think the analogies are good, ones are about caring about your job, and the programmer one is purely about outside perception.

So if I were going to use your thought process for the rest of the analogies it should probably be more like

"Just like my mom and coding, for us it's like the butcher doesn't care about how precious life is *BUT* they do, it's just that killing the animal is part of the job" (so we only see the colors/death, but don't understand what they mean in context of a butcher)

same goes for soldiers and generals and in some cases assassins

I don't think the child traffickers is a good example here, I don't see how doing an honest job is just like being a criminal. For example you don't have to be a psychopath to join the army, and in fact we know that many soldiers have problems taking a life... but you probably have to be at least a bit fucked up to do child trafficking, if not very fucked up

@Hazarth Child trafficking example is proper here... because they don't see anything wrong doing it. If they did, they wouldn't be doing it. To them, it is an honest job, traffic children and get paid.

Yes they are fucked in the head for thinking so, but either they don't have an alternative or see nothing wrong doing that.

Also, I said "overthinking". It doesn't make sense to do that 100% of the time. I might be wrong in thinking so, but that's how my brain escalates things I guess

@SidTheITGuy Well yeah but... you also don't see anything wrong writing code in colors, because there's nothing wrong with it, right?

So I don't think we should think of child traffickers "oh, they're just doing a job I don't understand very well, but it looks like X" because they know they are doing something wrong, we understand it very well, and they are still doing it on purpose.

at least in the case of a butcher, general and assassins you could argue that "well his not *just* chopping up meat", "he's not just talking to a walkie talkie" and "he's not just killing people", though the case for assassins is a bit cloudy, but I think it's at least different from serial killers. But with the child trafficker he is "just selling children" and it's exactly what it seems to be and for exactly the reasons it seems to be.

I mean it's a silly discussion, because yeah, we're just taking overthinking to another level. I just found it interesting to point out the nuances that I see

The difference being that you work to make the world a better place, which is what good people do. It's not JUST the paycheck. It's never JUST the paycheck for a normal person.

Ask her to divide 1069/112, no calculator. Long division is just writing numbers, kids can do it. And yet most adults pale when confronted by it.
That's why we get paid. We are not afraid of writing funny words, numbers and colours!

@Nanos lol don’t u think that’s a bit hypocritical- ur comments are always like essays lmfao

Bruh my mom roasted me too the other day. I was talking about this one study about alcohol effects and she was like “ok but is what u are saying knowledge or just words?”. So fucking hilarious I couldn’t help but just die laughing from my utter defeat.

Regardless of colors used. Writing Javascript is a crime against humanity. Basically genocide. No, Typescript isn't better. It is just like putting a nice uniform and pinning medals on the perpetrator.

@Demolishun what’s the alternative?

@chonky-quiche uncontrollable sobbing

Well this escalated quickly...

@Nanos ahhh that makes a lot more sense I apologize

@SidTheITGuy Nanos is a devrant OG that’s just his style

@chonky-quiche somebody typed: "@nanos -vvv" at some point.

You're mixing up sociopaths, psychopaths and "average dudes with few or more screws loose".

Of course it looks to your mom like you're just typing in colors.

What do you expect?

For her programming is a complete black box. She doesn't understand a single thing about it, and even if she could grasp the context as in "programming, computers etc" without too much detail...

It's hard to understand what we do.

I would draw more the analogy to "a doctor with 10 years of education stitches in a 24 hour operation with a full operation team together a man, saving his life" - first reaction of most people: "Thank god".

... Yeah there might be a room for god, as medicine still has a lot of unknowns, but ... That was a human effort first, god second.

Same like it's not just coding what we do.

We stitch together a lot of contextual information to create sth which we ourselves never fully understand. Pretty much like science / medicine / ...

You can explain to me what you code, but I'm pretty sure that you cannot explain to me in great detail what happens with the code and how everything works.

Especially when we go all the way down to the mysterious esoteric island called kernel....

@ostream I already write Javascript. You don't have to sell it to me. ;-)