I work as a freelancer since the end of 2022, I make a LOT more than before and if anything clients pay before the deadline.

I studied it for a weekend I thought it would be way worse than it was. But I would never thing about working with it.

Don't use a condom during sex so I won't case up my phone. 🤣🤣

@jensrott
Me too, but that way I can literally carry hundreds of books in my pocket.

Not physical but tons of ebooks. Mostly textbooks about CS, EE and Robotics.

I think it not so important to be all social and always partying. That's just maybe 10 years but the results from your studying last for the rest of your life.

Break up.

It depends. Do you wanna be a Software Developer because they need little to no math. But if you attempt to become a computer SCIENTIST, you will need a fair amount, but what you will exactly need will depend on what field you work in.

I can totally understand you. University can be a very boring place.

I found the funniest thing, that it is a void function, so you get nothing in return for your application.

@sam1d
Yes. In Germany Universitys offer students in CS to assist in research. Pretty cool!

That is what computer engineers and electrical engineers do. So I guess that would be what you want to learn. Work your way down from low-level software to embedded to circuits and all the stuff electrical engineeris do.

Please stop. I can only stand so much sarcasm.

@alphanerd

I totally agree with. Finally someone who understands how it works in life.

@SukMikeHok
Jealos?

Aren't the Rotschild's the jewisch family that is worth almost 1 T$ themself?

Privatized, overpriced education is the problem.

Pretty fucked, that humans seem to have a natural resistance against it.
It is like forbidding self modifying code.

Not cool, dude, very uncool.

As a programmer you may only need high school mathematics. But as a computer scientist, you need a pretty big chunk of math.

Yes I was, but I wanted to rant it out in a seperate rant. :)

@Dekatelon Maybe those companies want people that have a deeper unstanding of that thing called computer and not people who type keywords. Because that is exactly what makes projects fail and creates bugs in programs. People without proper education that claim to know everything.

@BranDev Well, don't wanna offend you. But I don't get why anyone, especially at such companies would hire a guy that can't prove his skills. Because, how long an interview might be, you never make sure the person has the knowledge of a whole degree.
Coding is easy, anyone can learn it. Computer science instead HAS to be learned at a college you just cannot learn it on your own.

@Fast-Nop Thank you. That is what I said for years.

I'm from Germany. Here it is no billion dollar industry and no company would hire non degree devs and I think this is a pretty good things as it ensures a certain quality.

Still tho', how can you say you learn all you need all by yourself? You don't even know what all is, as no one ever told you.

And those guys started when CS was not the science it is today.
Aristotle never attended college, he learned everything from another guy and today nobody would take a self taught physicist seriously.

@Fast-Nop Thats just 2 Guys. And they just had ideas and a little knowledge. Anyone who lacks a degree is free to climb the Forbes Top 20 List. The remaining 99.99% of people may then be insufficiently qualified for broad range employment.

And btw, Jobs and Gates aren't devs.

@duckWit

It's about dismissing applicants who never have been trained on doing the job.

That is definitely not true. Only if you apply as the janitor or so but you will never make it in those companies unless you can show some kind of degree. I don't get why people think they are able to do anything seriously without a college education...

I don't know where people take the confidence from to say they want to do ANY kind of engineering without a degree. No one would let someone without a degree built a plane so why should someone write code without it, its just some sort of engeneering and one should never be allowed to practice it without a degree.