@Ranchonyx https://youtube.com/watch/...

It's technically possible, which is the best kind of possible.

Debian with Mate is very clean and to the point. I use VirtualBox on seamless mode and it it works like a charm.

@Ranchonyx If anything I want to do it to see if it can be done. I really want to know if it is fast enough to work as the GUI of a game doing it like that.

@Ranchonyx I've started building an electron application and I'm finding that js, maybe more specifically node, is not that bad.

I really wanted to be able to use c# but I need a webview that works on arm64. I tried a dozen different things and electron was the only thing that worked.

It's not as efficient as other languages or frameworks, but being able to build an application with an interface written in a language everyone knows opens up tremendous possibilities and speeds up delivery by a huge amount.

Now, if I could use electron as the interface to a c# application, then I think I'd really like that.

Reject the push and make this person adhere to the application structure. If you don't stop this now it will cause you tremendous headaches later.

@retoor Well, there are people with the attitude that people are not necessary and they are doing all they can to make as many of them as disposable as possible. AI is only one of the tools they are using to do it.

I wish we did things like the hobbits. It would be so much easier, plus a few extra holidays to boot.

@kiki When you have absolute power over everything and there's no one really left to tell you no, do you even need money?

Imagine the Great Depression, but globally. That is what will happen when there is no job, anywhere.

Then the world will end because AI told someone to jam a cheese sandwich into the console of a nuclear power plant.

So, go ahead. Stop using you brain. Let it atrophy. Only think things and make things sanctioned by Google, Microsoft, and Facebook.

Stop creating things.

Stop being human.

Just be the interface between a fancy random number generator and the world.

You presumably spend a lot of time at work, like most adults. Why would you just sign out for that time? Why not spend that time putting as much of yourself into your work? When you die, only what you did will remain. So why not put as much of yourself out there as possible?

If people don't matter to the process, then what point is there to having people?

This attitude explains why everything is falling apart.

If something looks right to the money people, that's good enough. It doesn't matter that the thing is actually made of styrofoam.

Why put any effort into anything if you get paid? It's not like you'll face consequences for a terrible job because just showing up is the baseline for acceptable. And no one is any better than anyone else, so it's not like your shortcomings are even noticeable.

How will humanity maintain power plants or come up with novel ideas or build competing products when they are only allowed to think what they are allowed to think. Google isn't going to help you make a Google killer.

And when almost no one has a job, what do you think is going to happen then? That you'll spend your days on Risa wooing green alien women?

@retoor @jestdotty It is a tremendous problem that no one in the chain of AI generated code (or anything) understands anything about it.

From a purely practical standpoint, if you need to work on it, but no one knows how, you're in trouble. If the AI is unavailable due to nonpayment, account revocation, a filter that suddenly disallows that train of thought, ISP blocks access for some reason, and any number of reasons, what are you going to do?

Good code !== the fastest code possible, nor was that the suggestion. Good python is slow relative to good C, but it can still be understood and maintained and will be efficient relative to Python code.

As for the suggestion that properly naming variables and understanding scope being not worth your time, you are clearly in the wrong field.

@jestdotty I have no idea what you are even trying to say.

Try to work with a codebase of any size that isn't understandable and maintainable.

Do it.

I dare you.

@jestdotty It solves the problem it's meant to solve while being maintainable, understandable, and efficient.

I can't believe that's a real question.

@kiki Good code, and anything certifiably human made, will become more expensive.

For one, It will be seen as a luxury item because so few people will resist the temptation to offload the use of their brain to Google, Microsoft, and Facebook and will be hard to come across naturally.

And for two, when the gibberish generated by AI breaks and the person that sold it (they are NOT developers) can't fix it, it will be up to a human with actual knowledge and understanding to fix it.

I hope that only refers to software or assets that are meant only for a specific engine, as silly as that would be.

It also may just be a copy paste job that wasn't actually decided upon by a single human being

@jestdotty When I cook there's fire and timing and ingredients and temperature. The only thing a mixing gives me in all that is the fire and maybe the exact timing. Everything else is my doing.

@jestdotty What they do at McDonald's isn't cooking. It's babysitting machines that do the cooking. The closest you get to cooking there is putting salt on the fries. I know because that was my first job.

No thanks. Every time I use it, it causes me more work than if I had just done it myself.

@bosslogic The iPhone is useless as a communications device, which is a huge liability when you need to communicate as much as I do for work.

@JsonBoa You are being sarcastic but almost every one of your points is true for the average person and getting worse every day.

How many people can make change or read a clock or cook a meal or plunge a toilet?

How many people being paid as programmers that use AI actually understand the code they are shoving into production? Less and less is the answer.

What will you do when your Internet goes out? You'll just twiddle your thumbs because you don't actually know how to do anything.

What will you do when you want to learn more about a topic that is contrary to Google's self interest? You just won't learn it and you won't even question why not.

Sure. Let's scour the Earth of resources so that Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and whoever else can tighten their stranglehold on everything they touch.

All so people can deliver products built from concepts they don't understand for a fraction of the cost of hiring an expert that does understand what they're doing.

In a generation, no one will know how to do anything without the assistance of AI. And by extension without the blessing of Microsoft, Facebook, Google, and whoever else controls the AI, no one will be able to do anything.

Try creating a competitor to these entities using their systems or thinking unsanctioned thoughts when all you know is what their systems have allowed you to know. See how far that gets you.

I used to love it when it was a relatively minor storytelling gimmick in shows like Adventure Time and the Mirror Universe in Star Trek. I even wanted the story I'm writing to incorporate it.

But now, it's so absolutely done to death that I've realized it makes everything essentially "it was a dream the whole time". Better to write a story with actual stakes so your audience feels the tension and fears for the characters in the story than to write one where nothing actually matters at all.

The people that paid them to build it sure did. I think it would be naive to think that at least some of the people building it weren't excited to see their work put to use.

@retoor Do you really think they won't start playing ads for Premium eventually?

Don't get me started on the totally unstable keyboard.

@12bitfloat I don't jump onto hype trains.

@12bitfloat It's not twisted panties. It's pattern recognition.

It is impossible to ignore the incessant inorganic astroturphing about Rust in every forum I visit. The artificial evangelism is enough for me to discount this "tool".

Doesn't Shopify have edit history? I'm certain I've used it before.

It sounds like you work in heaven.

The evangelism was enough to turn me off of it. I also don't like the thought of scrapping a good language (c++) instead of fixing it or teaching it differently to avoid the kind of problems the Rust claims to solve.