@hash-table it's not that situation, I have been working on the "hardest" projects and have setup and been leading three projects at the same time - I don't have any lead above me assigning me work. This is more about the team in general not really being interested in development or learning anything new and management who don't want to get involved with resource allocation or project/roadmap planning.

Unfortunately this is what I have been facing in quite a few places. Although I was leading a team before and that was great - hired passionate people that I still talk to now and brought in technologies that made sense and were agreed by the team.

Congratulations on the interview and new job! Hope it gives you what you're looking for!

@sbiewald just had a look - that's awesome! Thanks!

@sbiewald I only just started learning unity recently and just started a tutorial on oculus quest development in unity in the last few days so I am a complete noob still.

I'm building for android, having the quest connected via USB and building to the quest from unity, so I have to wait for the build whenever I want to change anything but at that point I guess I can unplug.

Do you have more info on working on it totally wireless?

@sbiewald haha, very true... Guess we're not quite there yet.

@Demolishun I forgot to mention pi and arduino and the lego stuff!

@Demolishun it's really frustrating - I only joined because my friend asked me to because he was working on a really interesting project but he gave up on the team and left about a year ago.

I kept telling him to give them more patience but now I realise he was right. It's one of these things where there are two established teams that don't play with others or eachother and my friend (and me) were starting a new team so we were always in the outgroup.

As he would say - it is actually impressive how they have managed to assemble so many apathetic and lazy people.
But then again they are getting webforms developers who haven't learned anything new to interview the angular developers so not surprising.

The managers have adopted a horizontal scaling solution to everything so they just keep hiring people here and mainly in India now but not training anyone or helping them work together.

@devJs you don't know how spot-on you are! He's been in this company for about 10 years (is later middle-aged) and is still working on webforms in his project! Wow top marks for you!

@devJs the lack of DRY code is exactly what I mean about copy-paste culture. I've seen so many functions in my current place that are the same function copy pasted with just one line changed.

Yesterday I saw a "senior" dev had copy pasted a c# class and didn't change anything other than the name to make it match the database he was connecting to... The same class... Copy-pasted... Changed the name... Almost as if he thinks it has to have the same name as the database to work?

It's the copy and paste culture. Devs don't seem to take the time to really learn things anymore, they just see bootstrap and copy paste each bit in. Many don't seem to have any idea about how to structure a project or come up with an original idea - just copy paste, copy paste.

I have actually been told off for not using bootstrap and using CSS grid etc because the other devs are used to seeing spaghetti bootstrap classes in their HTML and don't know how to do CSS/SCSS, that's why you end up with $blue: #aa0000;

Ooohhh yes!

Yeah, not just salesforce that has this issue unfortunately. What was the problem you were/are facing?

The new salesforce lightning stuff is pretty cool. Dunno what it's like where you live but in UK salesforce developers earn alot more - so I've been told!

@GinjaNinja @soulevans07 yeah honestly I don't understand how some of these people get through interviews - not that hard when its non technical people conducting the interviews... Difficult to get anyone in to some tech roles as well. I did say that it takes the piss and my manager just said that it's the way the world goes and he had the same thing at my age

@soulevans07 to be fair - my suspicions were aroused when he was befuddled by a ref keyword in a method signature and I had to explain what the dif between ref and val is...not that he'd forgotten... He'd never even heard of it...

I think this is a common issue with design patterns, and personally I would suggest looking at other books / videos online if this one is leaving you confused... Alot of design pattern books give pretty bad examples and make it much harder to think when you would need to use them. Personally i feel the best way is to find something that shows you code for a requirement and the problems that come of it without a design pattern, then shows you how to implement the pattern... I found pluralsight to be most useful here

@Jumpshot44 @maxon thank you both for the advice. I met with the new job boss and it looks like a really good opportunity. My managers knew something was wrong so they had a meeting with me and we spoke freely about everything.. Today i was showing off my pocs to the ceo.. Been a crazy week and now I've ended up with too many things on my plate in current role... Happy days...but tiring and stressful...but happy

yeah but "rubbish collector" would sound a bit weird

yeah i actually opened up the port and still wasn't working, used tracert and found out it it was the goddamn hosting provider we use routing through another company that blocked it at their end. god damn bastads!

unfortunately I've done this a few times with bin directory stuff because i just don't see it and forget about it, thankfully my co-dev is pretty good at letting me know >.<

as well as the comments already made you might want to look at signalr and websockets

@amahlaka disaster recovery

i didn't do compsci at uni but my wife did, we met in my first real job when I was a junior developer - i used to have to help her all the time and would ask "didn't you learn this at uni?" and she would say that all they ever did was uml diagrams...seen a few people say the same thing. really uni only goes so far, best thing is to get hands on.

Yeah i find they tend to say this even when they themselves have said specifically to not waste time with the ui as it is POC...whacha gonna do...

haha what is this?

@TonySnark cool, sounds like you'll be getting a good range of experience there, i look forward to your future dev rants!

best of luck! what language /area(front/back) are you going into?

sounds interesting - what kind of thing were you thinking? write a function that converts numbers into roman numerals with fewest lines of code type thing?

@mclovinit "view yourself as a business" - that's good advice, cheers

@tass yes and no - i don't like leaving a team in a shit position, they struggle to hire people as it is and yes its not my fault that they haven't got anyone else in but also i feel bad if i left them wholly understaffed