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Holy crap, I think you were the very last person on Earth to still have it downloaded!
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@epicality I usually use IntelliJ/AppCode/Android Studio. Was just playing around with Eclipse for a couple of weeks, reminding myself why it's so hated.
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@epicality i use eclipse because i see no point in stressing my machine with idea
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VenomDev7167yBeing completely honest I prefer Eclipse over IntelliJ, it was good until an update broke my entire key setup and all the ones they had were trash, and Eclipse had it close enough so I’ve just stuck with it. Don’t really code Java to often right now, but I may have to setup IntelliJ again for the summer... (DON’T KILL ME CAUSE I LIKE ECLIPSE *RUNS*)
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F9lke3157yWhat kind of image does Eclipse apparently have? I mean, what else IDE can you use for web backend development that doesn't look like shit (Netbeans) or costs 200$ a year (my old time favourite PHPStorm) not to begin with stuff like Vim and so on?
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Ubergeek2097yEverybody around me told me IntelliJ is so much better than Eclipse... now I try to use IntelliJ... and wasted two days just with trying to get projects running in it (or three). I’m really curious when I can start programming with it. Maybe then it shows me how cool it is... Up to now Eclipse handles Tomcat instances better... I like the workspace concept more... and there are other details I’m not so sure about but I will give IntelliJ a bit more a try...
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@Ubergeek IntelliJ is made to have projects open when you need them. Don't load 100 others if its not needed. You should only really need the initial setup and possibly enable the Eclipse keymap, and after that you should just import a project or make a new one and have a go. It's not well made for the notorious built-in dependencies, but much rather Maven, Gradle, Cargo, leiningen, boot.clj, ANT, etc.
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@rEaL-jAsE My .NET days are behind me, and refuse to use Microsoft's compiler for C++, even though I think they actually let you use Clang now.
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@RickyBGamez That's ridiculous. I've used Eclipse for a long time and have tried every single performance hack, know how to manage my workspaces, and it's still an extremely slowl pile of crap, especially on macOS. It also has garbage support for Gradle, just like netbeans. IntelliJ is FAR superior in so many ways. No idea what you've used Eclipse for, but I've done J2EE, Android tools and CDT, all of which are buggy as hell.
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VenomDev7167y@Hastouki That’s your experience, I’ve been fully satisfied with Eclipse. Everything I used on IntelliJ, I have on Eclipse. So you may have had a bad experience, but in my case both work extremely well and aren’t slow either. I would love to go back to IntelliJ, I’ve checked a few times now but the keys are still broken and they don’t have the default key set anymore. As stated before anyways, I rarely use them now, but later down the road when I need too, I’ll fix IntelliJ.
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@RickyBGamez My experience is pretty common, this isn't biology, it's widely observed that Eclipse is very bloated, broken and slow. There have been websites dedicated to how bad it is. What have you used it for and what platform? I've found it works much better on Linux/Windows than Mac.
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