I can't belieeeve that in some environments, developers are judged and rated by how they behave. I think they should be valued on skills, not on how 'cool' they project themselves as.

Nobody wants an asshole, even if that asshole is the most technically skilled candidate.

@kamen I'm referring to those who are not assholes.

Welcome to the human condition.

While I do have a good resume, I think my humor during interviews is the main thing that gets me hired I guess. They don't only seek a code monkey, they're seeking a 'partner'. Someone to have fun together with. Because that's work, having fun together with like minded people. Also, if there is fun, the skills will automatically come due positive environment.

the funny thing is the most toxic dev I met was in such a person rating system and simply just removed anyone politically if they didn't mark her as having good people skills on the reports to the corp...

once you start officially rating this stuff it becomes a gameable system and I definitely did not want to be playing that game. I didn't even mark her badly I just omitted handing in the report because I was busy

@kamen I literally don't care if they're an awful person if the only aspect of them I have to interact with is their work. If it's a coworker I have to deal with daily, I still don't care if I'm not forced to entertain their nonsense.

Because behaviour affects teamwork.
If you can't be a part of a team, than unless you're a "once in a generstion genius" you're going to be a detriment.
Being part of the team is equally as important as having skill.

@retoor Except for those who are too lazy and continuously scratch by with techs while portraying to everyone positivity whilst having no skill. It's not commendable and it also make the serious hard workers (like me) look bad who aren't lucky enough to gel with the team. This results in hard workers not being given opportunities while the unskilled jokester keeps getting new ones. That's not exactly a good system and it's infuriating.

@jestdotty Yes, games are stupid. I just come in to work and get out.

@SoldierOfCode Only if the person is wholly incompatible with the group should their personality be brought into question. If they can be professional at work and aren't doing anything to actively harm the business outside of work, who they are as a person doesn't matter in the slightest.

You're at work to work, not make friends.

I've actually yet to see a place where that is not the case. Sure some actual output performance is required but the highest pay always goes to the one that projects themselves the best. Never the quiet workhorse.

@retoor Yeah, essentially "could we have drinks with them after work", since they'll want a positive environment where people want to work together. A lot of dev skills aren't rare enough anymore to be the only deciding factor. I went to one job interview and high-fived the dude at the end. Was a fun job.

@BordedDev In contrast, in one interview I got called a fucking asshole for knowing programming better than the interviewer. lol

@CaptainRant hahaha, I did that after they hired me (now I don't code and talk out loud anymore)

@CaptainRant ha at least it was to the point instead of cryptic

I get some weird underhanded comments like "you have too many projects because you're trying to do things that are too challenging for you" when the guy couldn't even understand a single project I had... then sent me html weekly newsletter links like my 20 websites means I don't know how html works

@jestdotty I got sent away like a dog. It was kind of crap, but good riddance there.

What kind of attitude do they have? lol. It's good to challenge yourself and grow. Yes, people who go big mouth when they don't have knowledge are very irritating. lmao the html thing.