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That’s bullshit. There is nothing about the imperial units that makes them better for consumption or perception.
Gallones vs liters? Doesn‘t matter for drinking.
Feet vs. meters? Doesn‘t matter for eating.
Fahrenheit vs Celsius? Doesn‘t matter to estimate the temperature or to prepare for how cold it is outside.
It doesn‘t matter. -
@retoor femtofeet, kiloinches, centigallons, attoounces
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@cuddlyogre nasa uses metric
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Well, my gripe (and I think every engineer's) with imperial system is not the units per se, it's their retarded conversion factors.
Metric is simple, just move the comma, and has other useful properties like easily linking stuff like volume and mass for, you know, everyday stuff like water.
The whole "one hundred doesn't make sense for human perception" is bullshit since it could be as easily applicable to any arbitrary number.
In the end, it's like crapple. You can do what the rest of the world does (including, of course, NASA, since there's smart people there), or keep "being different", and mostly shitty at it. -
@kiki The general population uses imperial and NASA still does just fine.
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@Lensflare 69F > than 20.5556 C
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@kiki - long time ago Slavs had 90 minutes in one hour, totalling to 16 hours per day. Coincidence (totally not) is that 1 Slav hour is one sleep cycle.
In past Slavs were connected to nature and natural rhythms. Each one of the 16 hours had a name that revealed the purpose nature had for you to do at. When to go to sleep, when to do the work, when to go to raid non-slav villages in the area etc.
Time is constant motion for everyone, but not everyone measured it the same way.
To be honest, I find the modern time and calendar setup retarded for a significant number of reasons but can't say anything about it because I am immediately labeled as flat earther (which i am totally not) because I live in backwards mentality environment. -
@devJs just to be pedantic, different kinds of measurement is not the same as different units.
I‘m curious why you find the modern calendar retarded. I mean I don’t want to defend it but at the same time I can’t think of anything that would be a drastic improvement.
For example, you could try to make every month have the same number of days but it wouldn’t add up to a whole number, etc.
It looks like a good enough compromise to me. -
also, the notion that 100F is "really hot" and 0F is "really cold" per human experience is simultaneously completely useless and false, because depending on who you ask around the globe, either of those temperatures may be cozy or unimaginably extreme. Celsius is at least useful for cooking and dealing with ice (both in the kitchen and outside), and since both of those are universal experiences, everyone on Earth (except in Nepal) will have the same intuition for it.
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@devJs interesting
days of the year mirror common playing cards. I found this wild book from 1895 about it. don't know if I believe the weird things in it
52 cards * the 4 seasons and 1.25 for the fool (the day before new year and the leap year) -
@lorentz really hot and really cold for The American Taxpayer™ — the ruler of the world. They don’t even know what continent Nepal is in. They barely know Nepal exists. Smartest of them know that Nepal has a weirdly shaped flag, but that’s about it.
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@cuddlyogre afaik NASA's systems work internally in metric units and they had some pretty catastrophic failures because of bad imperial - metric conversion..
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@Lensflare I'd like to add that we are not surrounded by blood in a meaningful manner but are by water. For boiling water it does not matter to much that it's around 100°C but when temperatures outside are around 0°C you know water, rain etc. is going to freeze up and cause transportation issues. This is a very easy thing to teach children. Other than that I don't think it matters you get used to the numbers that matter to you.
Although I'm biased, would say that C and K and all metric units are vastly better and proven less confusing than imperial. -
@kiki yeah
but even then, an Alaskan and a Texan mean qualitatively different things obscured by language when they say that 100F is "really hot" -
@lorentz there is no context when a successful conversation between those two people is a priority. The priority is that both of them live in their respective states, peacefully, under surveillance, paying taxes.
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@kiki ew wtf surveillance and taxes
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@jestdotty can you drop the name of the book, I am interested in weird shit like that
april's fool day sounds familiar? It was first day of the year before so when people switched to gregorian calendar they called the ones that prefered old calendar - fools and people who celebrated it were called april fools.
Its natural that year ends with ending on winter and starts with spring, but why be natural when we can use one fabricated to make us work as slaves for the system.
@Lensflare - any timekeeping and calendar that is related to natural rhythm -
@devJs mystic test book
I was looking into whatever the hell destiny cards were and some guy wrote a set of books and had referenced a book called mystic test book from 1895
I found it on one of those libgen websites (also there's a version where it's only half the book... hmmm. seen people do that with other media they were trying to bury in retrospect actually)
haven't read the whole thing. it's def some kind of weird occult secret society book though and I wanna later
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interesting about April fools. I just think this book was like the most fascinating thing I've ever seen it's just wtf
see it's filled with weird nonsense like that. so that kind of makes far more sense then and fits their card system better, and the damned seasons and everything else. people suck moving all this stuff around for no reason. it's like they're trying to make things shitty and unnatural on purpose! -
@jestdotty thanks, will take a look at the book. About playing cards, how many is there? How many weeks per year? Ok, yeah, everything is always a coincidence, right!
I grew up in Russia. We don't use imperial units in any way, shape or form: we're fully metric. Every single person who taught me at school and whatnot was born and raised in Soviet Union that was also fully metric, and science was worshiped. We used to laugh at imperial units.
Given all that, I... don't hate imperial system. Inches, feet, miles, Fahrenheit degrees, gallons, all units based on human proportion. Just think where the word for "feet" came from.
Zero C is meh, nothing in particular. A hunge boils your blood kills you instantly. It's useless: it's a "shit ton of heat" in human scale.
Zero F is chilly, a hunge F is toasty. It's based around human perception. To me, there is no difference between 100 and 90 C, but the difference between 100 and 90 F is more perceptible, and thus more useful to a human being.
Same with every other unit. What's a gallon? A gallon is enough for an average Joe to get drunk, that's what a gallon is.
Where it all falls apart is when you're trying to create something. When you're trying to get some calculation going. When you're making — not consuming — you need your units to add up, e.g. to have the SYSTEM in place. Imperial system is not a system.
Imperial units are perfect for _consuming_ stuff: a gallon of milk, a pint of beer, a (real) footlong sandwich, a pound of meat. Six foot high dude with seven inch dick.
Metric units are indispensable when you're _making_ stuff, at any scale. That's the difference. Imperial units are the tool of consumption, metric system is the tool of creation.
Only the time units seem to be the same for everyone on earth right now. Time itself in its mercilessness gives the same treatment to all entities, doesn't matter if you're a human or a grain of sand.
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