Eloquent is so fucking slow, my (dead) grandma queries faster. It takes the fucking double of time on a simple query with only one join for maybe ~200 rows... From now on I go fucking back to raw SQL in my Laravel projects. 😤

Still not that slow :P

@gitpush too slow for me. 😡

@Divisionbyzero no dude, that's painfully slow, not only slow lol

if you're using a lot of joins, sub-queries or a massive data-set eloquent will most likely choke indeed, but it has its uses and is more than often acceptable, even if it adds on top of just a simple query builder:

https://stackoverflow.com/a/...

https://codeburst.io/how-to-use-lar...

https://reddit.com/r/PHP/...

@gitpush freakin slow. Yes.

@JoshBent good resources but still for middle sized queries I am faster, more precise and more efficient when I just write the raw SQL. Maybe it's me not knowing Eloquent that well, bit for now I can say it bur s more of my time than ot saves.

@Divisionbyzero you'll be screaming once you have to e.g. change a table and have a rather big system to go through, eloquent does help with a lot of things, especially readability and OOP.

@JoshBent I do believe you. I luckily never worked on big systems. 😅

@Divisionbyzero implementing proper flow and code health is never bad in small applications either 😉

Eager loading? 🤔

These links might help mate 😀
- https://hackernoon.com/eloquent-rel...
- https://laracasts.com/series/...
- https://laracasts.com/series/...
- https://courses.serversforhackers.com/...

And using Laravel Debugbar package helped me a lot. It can show how many queries are running on a page.

@Divisionbyzero why do you need to involve your dead grandma? 😛 She's resting in peace

@Devnergy @JoshBent you guys were probably right. Thanks for your advice.

@Wombat so you changed avatar and name, didn't recognize you at all lol

@JoshBent it's a secret.