How many of you are pissed at GDPR?

TIL that there exist some people who prefer their nationalism over their own privacy or security.

In what sense?

Well I dislike the extra hours my clients think they don't have to pay because of edits to their apps and sites that are needed.

@julkali Well, some users are saying since they are not under EU, they don't want to follow GDPR suggestions of double opt in for notifications etc and should be exempt from implementations related to GDPR.

I'm not talking about developers or website owners, but some regular online users.

@theKarlisK The users I had argument about this topic were not from EU, but from US.

The only thing I hate is websites restricting their content to EU users because they can't be bothered to make it gdpr-compliant.

As developer its really annoying.
As consumer I fucking love GDPR

Nationalism or privacy, freedom or jelly babies, Linux or fresh socks - life is full of tough choices.

@858master https://cybercounsel.co.uk/gdpr-in-...

@858master The thing is it's for EU residents. US residents are kind of pissed at it, for several reasons that I don't happen to know.

Not at all, I'm actually fully consider it in my current project. The user has all the power on his data.

@HoloDreamer Yeah, US citizen tend to not care about many things. And data privacy is no exception here. Just take a look at Facebook, Instagram and so on. The only thing that I really like is that they banned Huawei products. In my opinion, products whose manufacturer obliges to the chinese secret service should not be allowed in democratic systems.

@858master tons of work to fix things most people dont know what it means so everyone fucks around and tries their best but they are still not following the law.

An airline wanted to send 5000 people an email about a product not directly related to their service but as nice addition. Turned out they could only send it to a bit less then 100 people. So marketing has changed a lot.

Anyone needs to change things, are you a single guy selling rubber ducks out of your garage and do you happen to have a european customer you need to protect his data according to the law.

[To be continued]

@858master

Every business has so many things to do now, medium sized companies have to hire a special person which is their privacy officer to make sure everything is going according to the law and is a contact person for these matters. But most of the privacy agents I have seen dont know shit.

Ive read the law twice and researched a lot and visited three different courses about it. Ive got a pretty good understanding of what can be done and what not but its so complicated that no one can completely be GDPR compliant.

🖕🏻 GDPR as a developer 🖕🏻

🖕🏻 GDPR as a consumer 🖕🏻

Fuck GDPR and fuck the EU for pissing in everybody's pool.

What an utter clusterfuck they have created. Now every fucking website I go to has its own different banner at the bottom, of varying sizes (some even full screen) bothering me about something I have zero interest in being bothered about.

Cookies? Come on. Can you imagine if you had to grant every single app permission to store settings on your disk?

Except not with a standardized interface, but every single app with its own random window, each with a slightly different message in a slightly different font in a slightly different color.

For what? So it can store a few bytes of data in a fucking cookie.

Good god what a joke software development has become.

I'm going to start adding "This website uses cookies and there's not a god damn thing you can do about it" to the bottom of my pages.

Don't like it? Disable cookies.

🖕GDPR

Imo people need to grow more balls and stand up to authoritarian bullshit like this.

Don't agree with a law? Fucking break it. It's called civil disobedience.

This is the perfect example of a law that should be ridiculed into oblivion.

Newsflash: Navigating to a url *is* consent. I am consenting that my browser load this remote document. I am giving you permission by hitting the Enter key. If part of the loading of that document involves running scripts and remembering stored information, I'm totally cool with that. I I weren't, I would disable it.

What I'm not cool with is being pestered by every fucking website I go to about storing cookies.

Where's the respect of my wishes now, huh?

How about you get consent to suck my fucking balls and let me get back to work.

How much fucking money has been blown on this stupid fucking thing? Millions? Billions? I can't even imagine.

How much time has been collectively wasted by people having to dismiss hundreds of these god damn cookie banners on every fucking website they go to?

Fuck.

@858master I'm not upset with GDPR, yeah maybe a little bit as a developer for the extra work.

I'm surprised with people who are upset with GDPR on nothing else other than the basis of their nationalism.

Just because EU happen to be consumer friendly and smart enough to first put forward such a law that some people / consumers are pissed at it?!

Regardless of a user's nationality, GDPR implementation is there for the benefit of users worldwide. There is no significance in bringing politics or patriotism or nationalism into this.

@devios1 you're speaking from a user perspective. It is annoying. People do not understand it. They fail to implement it. Gdpr must be opt-in yet many fail at that. Should be easy but so many provide options to opt-out that require you to go to each of their partners web sites and opt-out there.
Like many laws, gdpr is fairly good in theory, implementation often sucks, nearly impossible to enforce it...

@nnee I’m not against personal data protection laws in general, obviously, but this whole thing about consenting to store cookies is where this one falls apart. They need to fix that before I can even think of getting behind this.

@devios1 It is a mess. Except maybe on paper. But the point is securing personally identifiable data, that can uniquely and without a doubt identify an individual. It (gdpr) is a nice gesture. And gesture alone. Not to say it can't be implemented in practice but that seems tedious. Maybe, I'm not positively sure.
Nothing and no one can nor should prevent you from aggregating data. Running on-line business is perfectly legitimate, as it should be.
The problem is drawing a fine line that would separate legitimate and needed from unnecessarily excessive and, of course, abuse which is loved by so many companies, institutions and individuals.
It merely speaks of current state in society.

I am for such initiatives. If only authorities would make sure it works. Currently, I do not see it happening, even if individuals would report violation of gdpr.

@nnee I certainly believe in personal data rights. I agree with opting in to marketing emails etc., but I really don’t want to have to opt in just to use every website I visit. It seems somewhere along the line this changed from being a reasonable law about protecting people’s personal information to some kind of paranoid delusional fear of cookies.

Websites should be bound by laws not to share private and personally-identifying information regardless of whether or not I agree to some banner I didn’t read.

But why on earth would they need consent to store cookies? It’s a normal part of how websites operate.

@devios1 Cookies per se are not the problem. It is how they are used and what data they contain or link to. Seeing these prompts is annoying but also means that some people actually obey the law and respect privacy, on the surface at least.
It does require an educated choice from users. Since lazyness is inherent to humans (no offense meant, I'm far to lazy) such choices become a huge annoyance. Companies, on the other hand, do not make it easy.

@devios1 Cookies can be used for quite invasive tracking, now consumers at least have a choice!

@devios1 Also, when I enter a website has tracking shit like google/facebook pixels, who's gonna tell me that it has this BEFORE I visit the page? Nobody. So if I don't get a consent thingy, my browser will connect to several mass surveillance networks without my permission (with those surveillance networks I of course mean Google and Facebook) and that's just a fucking no go.

@linuxxx It’s an illusion of choice. Why does a choice even need to be made? The default assumption should be that no company has the right to sell or otherwise use my personal information on their own without my permission.

The problem isn’t with cookies: cookies are just persistent program data for websites. The real problem is that web browsers allow foreign pages to access cookies created by other domains (google, facebook, etc.) which is how they share information and track you. That’s the security flaw that needs to be addressed, not this braindead notion of consenting to store cookies.

Pray tell how asking nicely is increasing your security. You’re still at the whim of those people/sites cooperating in the first place, hence why I strongly feel we are far worse off after this law than before it.

It gives people the illusion that they are somehow safer when in fact there is no technical guarantee of data protection at all.