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feroza9766y"They are a bunch of asshole who are working to make money"
Every single company exists to make money, that's how the world works. It's just that Apple is more successful at that than others. -
Piece of shit? Highly opinionated without providing a reason as to why it is?
Apple as an ecosystem has complete synchronization with every product they have. From the Mac OS(which in case you don't know it is a BSD derivative which is completely coupled with their hardware, something that many other manufacturers just can't provide yet) to their watches, tv and phones, everything is true to the brand. Build quality is outstanding. I have 2 macbooks, a 2013 and a 2017 model. The 2013 works just as fine as when I first purchased it, I have used it professionally(I am not a hobbyist, but an actual trained engineer) for: Android development, IOS development, web development in a multitude of frameworks and as my daily main driver and it works perfectly fine. Sure, xcode versioning sucks from time to time, name an IDE without problems, I'll wait. -
Furthermore, having a framework(Cocoa) build on an actual compiled to the machine platform(obj c, c++, Swift) makes applications butter smooth. Those 3 languages are a superior alternative to:
Windows .NET and their laughable c++/c# ecosystem.
Linux and its completely fragmented environment.
Regardless. I still love both windows and Linux(use Linux just as much as my macs) but the experience pales in comparison to my macs and their superior tooling.
Regarding phones, IOS is superior to Android in all regards, from a security standpoint(few cases of IOS malware in comparison to Android ) and the same idea that the app build progress decission to use memory smart languages(ARC for their compilation technique) is far smarter than a garbage collected language such as Java. Furthermore on that regard, building an IOS app is more enjoyable where people regard native coding the best alternative -
@AleCx04 whereas in Android we have a multitude of ways to make apps because a lot of people absolutely hate building mobile android apps.....the Android SDK is a major pain point and makes people hate Java which is otherwise a very nice language.
Ios and iPhones just work. You need to take a picture and it just works, you need to watch a video and it just works. Connect to wifi? Simple, there is a quality process in the app store. So those poor quality bs Google store apps are a non issue. -
Last but not least, I am writing this from an S9 which i absolutely love, so no, not a fanboy or a biased asshole. I love all operating systems and i even enjoyed the windows phone when it was still a thing. But to just bash Apple saying that it is shit when it ain't is pointless. My dad still uses his iphone se, and before that(he switched earlier this year) he was still rocking his iPhone 5s. The only reason why he changed was because he just wanted a new model, the 5s was working just fine and fast af too. Not the same thing I can say from: my htc one m9, lg g5, s5, s7 and sony Ericsson xperia. The whole "herp derp apple slows done your phone" always striked me as bs since of course you can't be in 2018 with a phone from 2012/13.
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C0D4669446yWhat @AleCx04 said.
Apple have done a lot to differentiate themselves from the market, I’m not a fan boy by any means, I like the iPhone but I can’t see the point in an over price, underspeced laptop.
As for tablets, well I honestly can’t be bothered using anything beyond an iPad, all android tablets feel sluggish, what good is extra ram and cpu power if the operating system isn’t Optimized for them? -
cinoo2046yPeople like apple bc it works. By people i mean normal people that don’t know their shit about technology. Thats what’s apple is selling, convenience.
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@C0D4 man I will never condone them prices. I just can't.
I can understand 1000 dllrs at most, maybe 1200 and that is pushing it, heck 1000 was pushing it already. But 2500+?? That is just some bs. Make the platform unavailable for so many people. The flair of elitism is just not worth it for most. -
wolfman44326y@feroza money is a part of business. but customers sentiments and trust is another thing too i guess
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wolfman44326y@AleCx04 why ? there are many things I know may be synchronisation of operating is the best because of course of the limited number of hardware optimisation and made unix more beautiful. but the point is ! Is it worth it ? is it worth 1000's of dollars ? they keep their ecosystem separate from others. they think they are the best in this ecosystem.. every time they portrait themselves like that.. what I actually hate.. the recent 2018 model with i9 the see the cooling solution in that macbook pro 2018, the same apple x this year too.. they manipulate their valuable customers on their fingertips.. they don't value you .. what they value most is money.. and yeah I used to be the macbook pro 2017 model owner but Now I switched to gigabyte aero 15x.
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wolfman44326y@AleCx04 I am not a fan of android. but I respect android because of the open source kernel. talking about security due to the opensource nature of android kernel.. we can give as much as security layers as we want.. so it depends upon the companies that how they use the android for security purpose.
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wolfman44326y@AleCx04 java is an awesome language .. and nobody can ditch java for any reason for its beauty and its history .. but with the technology is growing with an exponential rate so that we have to adapt in that ways..and bro there is pinpoint in every kind of software development
I know the app problems in android .. but its just the matter of time -
wolfman44326y@AleCx04 I know. what you are trying to say. the the whole point is .. if they value their customers .. if they love their communities.. if they love what they have and respect the sentiments of their loved customers. so they need to come down and stop fooling people about the price of their product.. just see the image i have attached. In India they multiplied the cost of dollars by 100 .. but the actual exchange rates bind upto 65 * dollars. what the fuck is this .. they will decide the exchange rate of any country ? Bro they dont deserve trillion dollar.
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@AleCx04
1.Apple hardware design is bad:
Look Louis Rossman on yt, he has a LOT of examples where apples design is worse that the competition
2.Apple software is integrated with OS and is relaible (of course not counting those cases where it isnt, i have seen numerous rants about it)
but it is limited and expensive. On android i can find a lot of useful apps that i use in process of designing electronic circuits.
3. .NET isnt shit. Yeah try to develop something in C++ thats pretty and dosent require years to develop (remember about memory managment!!!) .NET CORE works on windows, linux and apple OS. C# is one of the easiest launguagea to work with, few reasons are the awesome VS debugger, NuGet, integrated Git, Inteligsense -
i honestly truly thought I'd never see a person with common sense and logic to stand out and say this. congrats
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As for apple itself, I'm not a fan of the company but oh well.
As for its products, they're very expensive and that's what I don't like about them. I know multiple people who'd love to have an iPhone or Macbook but due to the price, it's just a no-go for them.
As for the software, as long as it's closed source I'm not trusting it a single bit. Next to that, the snowden leaks container documents which showed that (if they're correct) apple is (just like quite some other US based Internet companies) integrated within worlds biggest government powered mass surveillance network and this makes me trust anything apple even less.
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feroza9766y@apoorvakumar Apple has the most loyal and trusting user base of any company. That's why people keep buying their products year after year. The price doesn't matter, as long as they are getting what they want. After all, no one is forcing them to give money to Apple.
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@apoorvakumar i am yet to find a company that does not value money. Telling me that a company values my money more than me is funny, od course they value my money more than me, you think I care about that if the product does what it is intended to do? I couldn't give a shit of their care for me as long as the product works as advertised and lasts me as needed which is something that Apple can do while other companies fail.
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@Gregozor2121 no thanks boyo. Been on this business for a while and I know what I am about when it comes to my tooling without Rossman's hate mongrel based bs. I have seen his videos, technically correct and thorough I will give him that.
YET I have seen more hp and dell and lenovo laptops come and go that I have seen my Apple computers disappear. Guess what I had before the 2013 model? Das right my dude, another Apple computer. Guess why I changed it? Because I wanted to. Huge difference with Apple products. I change them because I can, not because I have to. Whereas in a fuckload of companies like dell or hp(you name it) i had to because the machine was not working. Machines that in many cases Rossman endorses.
And I never said that .NET is shit. I said that their c++ implementation is laughable, big difference. Don't need you to tell me about it either as I have also used it professionally before and still do when I need to. -
Good luck trying to get repairs done when that multi-thousand dollar shit breaks.
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wolfman44326y@AleCx04 "Apple can do while other companies fail" because they have bunch of jackasses who follow apple blindly and if you are talking about the quality then let me tell you one thing. welcome the new companies in the ecosystem and stop backing up apple .. because They are fucking shit .. they dont deserve this love .. ANd business first and customers second psychology never works.. see this picture .. this is the exact portrait of the apple and their so called apple fucking fan boys are
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wolfman44326y@feroza "Apple has the most loyal and trusting user base of any company." I understand .. but what apple do with that trust.. they dont care about the love.. they just fucking sell things they want.. stop backing apple .. accept that its a full of shit.. don't take 100reasons to love apple .. although your inner you know how apple is so fucking awful..
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@apoorvakumar nothing about thar addresses what I said regarding product longevity though. What the hell has fanboyism to do with a product lasting years longer than others? That made 0 sense and you took my quote completely out of context :/
Fragmentation will always cause issues, and while some products are absolutely amazing(lg, one plus, samsung, motorola sony to name a few) there will always be a struggle regarding the way software works if not properly aligned and optimized for the hardware. Else all Windows machine would be bona fide workstations for years my dude.
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Why apple is a peice of shit..? Why even people love it.. It makes apple to grow more.. Although they don't deserve it.. They don't deserve the trillion dollars.. Why don't they fuck them self..
In a year they release a peice of shit and people are like applauding on it.
Are you fucking serious people?
The people who called as "apple fanboy" please go fuck yourself.. Tell me one reason to love apple..
I am not talking about the price issue. I am talking about they think that they are the best.. But no they are not. They are a bunch of asshole who are working to make money.. They don't need to respect.
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