!rant Writing code in a barebones text editor so that I am forced to think more about my code and debug deeper. Hah! No more fancy IDE's while learning (for now)!

Not such a bad idea, actually. I've been going like this for years. Not even autocomplete. I used to be a semi-regular person, but now, now I am addicted to crack cocaine and practice the most tenebrous dark sorcery.

my fren does this and he tried to help me debug a library earlier and this was the first time I actually did anything code-wise successfully with another person so that was weird

These days languages are designed with a language server in mind. Software design is officially a graph problem and not a typographic problem.

@lorentz this ^

The ability to keep the exact names of all variable and type names in your head is an impressive display of your memory.

But it doesn’t make you a better coder. Coding is about structure and algorithms, not memorization.

@Lensflare it does cuz scratchpad in brain work fast if you have the memory to put it all in

fuck I miss my old brain. I had whole codebases in there. like literally operating system sized shit

and I could trivially write libraries while falling asleep that were hundreds of lines (which apparently people thought was impossible or weird or something)... what annoyed me is waking up and having to tediously write them out then cuz it was so boring lmao. I didn't want to waste the 30 minutes concentrating on operating a keyboard lol

well too bad I have brain damage now instead

@jestdotty we had this conversation a long time ago and my opinion on this hasn’t changed.

I grant you that a good memory will make you faster, but faster doesn’t mean better.
In my view, the question if a coder is good is distinct from the question if a coder is fast.

@Lensflare ok

you can memorize structure and algorithms

unless you're here advocating for naturally inventing them, then that's IQ

and higher IQ people have better memory and faster nerve conduction. which effectively means they're faster and remember better. so it's all correlates but whatever

@jestdotty you know the saying: correlation doesn’t imply causation

Thanks to forced AI in everything, autocomplete is basically broken, so all I use my ide for now is formatting and quick navigation between functions and making git and DB stuff easier.

I was able to successfully find a tricky bug in React using this method, even if it took me 20 minutes.

@Lensflare My idea is not towards memorization, but rather toward finding bugs without the IDE telling me: "hey, here's a syntax error" or "hey, it could be here!".

@cuddlyogre every IDE should allow to disable AI and use the old autocomplete.

If it doesn’t, it’s shit anyway. Switch to another one.

@CaptainRant I get that, I just don’t get why you would want to forgo the benefits of an IDE. Personally I see no value in doing it manually. An IDE is more reliable.

@Lensflare It's not even that AI autocomplete is bad. It's that the traditional autocomplete that used to be great is now always terrible because they want to push you to AI autocomplete that is a coin flip on usefulness. I'm just so sick of everything getting worse.

@cuddlyogre again, you should be able to switch back to traditional autocomplete