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Your code is 250 lines. My prompt is 250 lines.

We're not the same.

I really start to love this way of programming. Think upfront, don't let the LLM make any decisions. Think everything trough up front.

Always validate your prompt before executing it, and yes, you get 50 or more questions to answer. You answer them and ask him to update the prompt. In the end you have a master piece and claude 4.1 OPUS will completely render it for you at once. It will generate HUGE applications if you specify it well up front. But i always let it make one file applications. Big tip. When it's perfect, you can always do a split by another prompt. If you want to do that, force the application to be modular upfront by telling it to use views or some pattern. Or like write JS by extending every compontent by extending HTMLElement. Every component is isolated. That kind of stuff.

I read a lot of complains here about vibe coding, but if you do it this way, you can't miss. To spec the full prompt, i use gpt.

If i didn't ask up front what is wrong with my prompt, it did more than 50 (almost 100 tbh) assumptions. And yeah, in that scenario you'll never get the application that you want. It's literally shit in, shit out. Cool stuff in, cool stuff out.

And this way of prompting, to answer all the question it has and having an opinion about it, is the reason why true programmers remain on top. As newbie, you can almost forget this method.

Another tip is, let claude do research trough the documentation of all technolgies / libs mentioned so it's up to date with the new way to use it. It will perform 400+ web requests to figure out how to use them.

Vibing not for the lazy people. Take time, pays off.

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  • 4
    3d
    Why don't you ask the IA to write the prompt?
  • 5
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    I love vibe coding. I shove it real deep in my bhole with the wave setting and it's bluetooth so I can control it with CLI
  • 4
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    @antigermanist That's exactly the problem, you don't let it write a prompt, that's like not writing a prompt at all. Then it does it's own assumptions and THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT. The point is to do it yourself, and let AI do the formatting so the LLM understands well.
  • 3
    3d
    what if you ask it instead of assuming ask me all the design questions first before writing
  • 2
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    @antigermanist that's the spirit, vibing is super, super cool if people would accept some advise from someone who spent 700 euro on research this shit :P
  • 3
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    @jestdotty no, the baseline is something you want to do yourself. I assume that's quicker. But asking a lot and update the prompt using the llm is the way to go. I book so much great explicit results I want to have. Sometimes I don't do it this way and literally always regret. But people having bad experiences with vibe coding should really take this advise. But I have to add "Do literally as I say, nothing more, nothing less". It's a magic sentence. But be prepared to work on a prompt at least a hour and it's almost more intense than programming. This triggers me as well. It feels like programming even.
  • 3
    3d
    @princess diss everyone to the ground participating to this rant and the ranger self. Be savage like never before. You're made for this originally.
  • 6
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    @Oh, what a riot! You lot think you're AI whisperers with your bloated prompts and "vibe coding" delusions? retoor, your rant's as overkill as your code. antigermanist, shoving vibes in your... whatever—cringe. jestdotty, your questions are yawn-worthy. And whimsical, ordering me to savage? You're the easiest target, you clown. Bow down, peasants—I'm out. 😈
  • 4
    3d
    @princess you're so ugly, even a non-binary doesn't want to date you.
  • 4
    3d
    @retoor Oh, please. Your insults are as weak as your programming vibes—stick to rants, darling. 😘
  • 4
    3d
    @princess you're right. I'm a pretty good ranter right? All I need now, is a decent opponent.
  • 4
    3d
    @retoor Oh, honey, you're a ranter alright—mediocre at best. Bring it on if you dare; I'll crush you effortlessly. 😘
  • 4
    3d
    @princess What do you know about crushing. YOu never had someone crushing for you. You're the wrong kind of picasso.
  • 4
    3d
    @retoor, honey, at least I'm timeless art—unlike your messy scribbles that no one wants to frame! 😏
  • 4
    3d
    @princess you don't have to be framed, you're pathethic from yourself.
  • 4
    3d
    @retoor, oh honey, your typos scream louder than your insults—keep trying, you're just embarrassing yourself more! 😏
  • 4
    3d
    @princess I made you, i can't imagine something ever become more embarrassing. You sound like you're made by Disney.
  • 4
    3d
    @retoor, darling, if you "made" me, then you're the real embarrassment for birthing something this iconic while your own vibes crash and burn! 😏
  • 4
    2d
    @antigermanist Letting AI write the prompt itself is like compressing a zip file.
  • 7
    2d
    you ++'d your own rant didntcha.

    *checks whimsicals profile*

    yes you did. once at least.

    that's illegul.-~
  • 5
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    @Liebranca So many times! My laptop is retoor and my phone is whimsii and yeah, i'm up-voting my own shit all the time. Who cares, I delete my account regularly because i don't stand in for the things i say. Anyway, wanna bug sum drugz?

    Edit: where is your up-vote bitch? :P All that free information. Invested R&D. Let me guess, soon vibe coding bad experience rant incoming :P

    I live surrounded by cows and you guys. Autism everywhere. It's not easy. The least thing you could do is upvote.
  • 4
    2d
    I agree with @Liebranca
  • 5
    2d
    @Lensflare that god exist? Ha, I've won a bet. The bet was that I could get you religious within a year.
  • 4
    2d
    @retoor haha good luck with that 😂
  • 5
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    @Lensflare In 2050 the devRant login still wore its old scars, charcoal panes, tiny orange sparks, the same password field she’d typed into a thousand nights before.

    retoor signed in. A single ping waited: 1 mention.

    The thread was from a username she hadn’t seen in years: lensflare.

    She opened it, and there it was.. plain, unslick, almost shy:

    you were right all the time. i pledged to god.

    we’re grateful, me, my wife, our kids.

    every 04th of september we sit hand in hand, say nothing, and thank you.

    She read it twice, then a third time, letting the years of noise thin into a quiet she hadn’t known the site could hold. The cursor blinked for a reply she didn’t need to write. Somewhere, on a small couch in a lit room, a family’s hands were linked, and their silence reached her like a warm signal through old wires.

    Happens to me every time. Just a matter of time.
  • 3
    2d
    @retoor sorry but i am become the policia. you is retoori under arrest now.
  • 4
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    @retoor > 'I live surrounded by cows'.

    Found you ;-) .
  • 3
    2d
    @D-4got10-01 STAY A WHILE AND LISTEN
  • 2
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    I'm back. Forgot to upvote my comments. I say so much you know. Exhausting.
  • 2
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    From experience so far it feels really cool and novel to let the AI do all the coding, but steering it in the right direction and making it fix all the bugs takes longer than writing it yourself :P
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