How to approach job applications for EU and US market?

I have applied at multiple places and have never made it even to the first stage. The jobs I apply for, pretty much match my experience level and stack.

Does this have something to do with visa issues since I am from the Middle East?

Or is there something else I am possible missing out on.

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    what degree do u have
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    @SukMikeHok Bachelor's in CS
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    @TheMaesterio @fast-nop @root @alice @real-jase @-angry-client- and other shits, as u can see: if you were to compare (the value of degree) === (fresh dog shit), the output would be true
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    @SukMikeHok Degrees are useless. Especially from the majority of US colleges. (And probably Indian ones, too.)

    I would only hire someone who can demonstrate practical skills, degree or otherwise. Honestly, I often view applicants with degrees as less educated and less skilled.
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    @devtea do u feel like @Root has offended u?
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    @SukMikeHok degree is almost useless tho, the use of it is so small in reality
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    @SukMikeHok Inciting drama, are you?
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    *possibly missing out on
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    I can't speak for other countries, but in Switzerland it's pretty hard for companies to hire foreign workers (with exception for EU guys). So might just be the visa barrier.

    Have you thought about doing some remote work first, so they can see your skillset?
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    @Root Agreed, I personally find degrees alone to be useless as well. Though, I do have two years of working experience as well. So to never even get to the first level, is sometimes hard to digest.
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    @Wack Yeap, unfortunately majority of the ones I have come across, offer remote work only within the city or the country.
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    In my expirience companies which do other things besides development usually have a HR that doesn't know shit. Still that HR does the initial screening of applications, thus a degree can be valuable to just get you in the first round. After that, if you don't do like "research", working expirience is way more important.
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    Get the Cracking the Coding Interview book (not sponsored)

    What you'll need here is the first chapter, it has a full roadmap on how to approach all of this start to finish, with degree or not.

    First, create a good resume, take a day off just for this.

    Two, create side projects, use everything you've learned from design patterns, implement them, and implement the algorithms, follow the SOLID principle, and document that shit.

    Three, update resume

    Four, create a portfolio (a public GitHub page is enough)

    Five, make a great LinkedIn page with all the necessary details and have a good portrait picture, don't go extreme.

    Six, connect with people, keep applying

    Seven, read the book again

    Eight, keep coding

    Nine, keep applying

    Ten, check for mail, got something? Great! Go back and read the book and prepare (break;)

    Ten B, Nothing? see six.

    What I said is not necessarily from the book, but I'll tell you what a large company (hated by everyone here) recruiter told me, (1)
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    @Wack makes a good point.
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    @Revenger Thank you, that's extremely helpful 🙂
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    (2) A degree does help, a Master's degree sounds great!! But can you code?
    I don't care what you've done in school, I won't even ask for your grades as those are nothing but dogshit (depends on context of course, this is not always the case, and of course that's not what's been said) what I care here, is that when you come here, you prove to me that you know how to code, I don't care that you know how to take a search algorithm and say do this do that and you got a logn algo, no. I want to see you implement that exact thing, on board, and walk me through it. That's what matters. That you know your shit, not just building strategy for exams and forget about it.

    Disclosure: not the exact words of course.

    And good luck!
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    @SukMikeHok I will check this out later. Thanks for mentioning me
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    The issue is not your degree, nor your experience. I am going to be honest with you and state that here in the U.S your biggest hurdle will be being from the middle east since a: people do have prejudices and b: working through the appropriate channels i.e dhs to get your work visa would be far too much of a hassle.

    Where you got your degree matters. Sadly for a lot of places, the U.S requires for your degree to be validated with us first before we can take it in. There are some excemptions, mainly if your uni is some major ivy league institution, but even then I know of some cases in which certain credits need to be revalidated.

    I would never say that a degree is useless. To me it shows discipline and perseverance. People keep talking about degrees being useless as if only self taught devs are the good ones......a dev that self teaches himself AND has the credentials to prove it will always surpass you.

    We don't spend years at school building "hello worlds" programs guys...
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    The issue for EU is the visa. Usually, you can only hire non-EU folks if you can't find domestic workers, and then only for jobs that are relatively well paid, and uni freshers don't get such jobs no matter where they are from.

    A CS bachelor in itself is OK, but it's just a basic necessity and not something impressive. Necessary vs. sufficient.
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    Unless you are local to the company, they don't want to interview and incur travel costs, especially if they feel there's enough local talent. Your competitors are already in the city where the work is

    If you're applying for remote positions keep in mind every other developer and quite a few non-developers are also interested in that job, too - your competitors are anywhere in the world and they are legion
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    @syed1hassan haan bhai mujhe tk malom ha degree problem solved nai krti skills krti... pr mere parents ko nai maloom ye 😂😂
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    @wamiqurrehman parenta ko bol
    Meri mrzi mai chay ye krn mai chahy wo krn 😂
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