VIM or Emacs ?

ESC :q!

@sbiewald i'm too lazy to reach Esc button

@ahmed4star That's why many Vim users have switched Esc and Caps/Lock.

Yes

It's not rocket science.

Google it.

@Stuxnet i don't trust google

@ahmed4star Google bad reeeee

You know what I was saying.

Use whatever shitty search engine you want. It's not brain surgery

@ahmed4star @TobiSGD or just press ctrl + c

@Stuxnet
But how to Google when stuck in vim? Checkmate, atheists.

@ihatecomputers literally everyone has a phone.

Google it on your phone.

I wonder how many times per day the exit vim jokes are posted

@Stuxnet
But I don't like Google 😏
Check... Mate...

@ihatecomputers Bing it on internet explorer then, since you apparently like shitty programs.

As a teaching assistant, one task they have to do is use their editor without the mouse. I find it hilarious how every vim-using student knows how to close vim, but no one seems to know how to close emacs without using the mouse, or killing the process externally...

VSCode currently. Or, if I really have to, nano.

@Thizizmyname why? That's literally the most pointless thing I've ever heard. I like both editors but they're no longer industry standard. Only a small minority of those kids will ever use vim or emacs in a meaningful project. By forcing them to adapt to those tools they gain no useful knowledge as far as I can tell (except perhaps being able to access help on a new tool) so it seems to me that it's not something you do for their advantage.

@Pickman well, I might have agreed with you if I didn't gone through the course and assist in it now. First, this is just one small in a myriad of tasks they can/have to present, I've never heard of anyone failing it.

Why it's in at all is more about showing the students that there are tools out there and how they can benefit you. I've seen people in their first year use the standard Microsoft notepad... But it's also somewhat to encourage them to start using simple and "dumb" editors in the beginning so they learn the language, not how an IDE autocompletes.
Which is why there is also an optional task for configuring the editor to suit them better in their programming (linters keyboard shortcuts, rainbow parentheses for example).

Plus, they have to do a couple of code exams on some thin clients which don't have anything better than emacs/vim so they better learn it before...

@Pickman Depends on how you define industry standard. On servers VI(m) is the one text editor you will almost always find.

Nano ftw

@Thizizmyname well, I get the idea but I hope you guys can get with a better implementation. After all learning one of those programs is useful but they need to learn it. If you just make them dip their toes it seems pointless to me. Also... I wouldn't call Emacs so limited. It's a very powerful tool if you manage to learn it (something I'm trying to find the time for).