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@irene Let's just say I am currently not happy with Microsoft ditching one product after the other. Edge could be even better than the aforementioned products, still I would be bitter using it. So, Opera for you.
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I like Vivaldi and have it as my everyday browser. It's by the same team as Opera before the sellout, and I can't confirm that it's a buggy mess.
Iused to like Firefox, but I increasingly didn't like Mozilla and how they were shitting on their users. Most of their crap used to be reversible via some addon, but they axed addons and thus FF's unique selling point. Vivaldi isn't as good as old FF, but neither is new FF. With Vivaldi, I don't have to check each update what shit they try to smuggle in this time, so I used FF's Quantum to abandon it for good. -
-Minty-2116yWhy not Firefox-based if you don't like Mozilla as a company for their views, or Chrome as a browser? Mozilla isn't the best, but their ethics are sure as hell better than Google's
And, Vivaldi over Opera any day. I personally find Opera to be a weird, shady mess. -
@-Minty- Are there still any Firefox-based browsers out there? I remember Waterfox and Palemoon for being the only 64-bit for quite a while. There was some drama concerning Palemoon and the addons when Mozilla decided to make changes on how they worked. As for Chrome, it's been already written on the main thread post. 🙂
@Jilano So, running a Linux VM on Windows, just to have QuteBrowser?
@Codex404 Maybe I will try it for the "lulz". It runs from Win95 till NT, so there's a chance it's still operational on Win10. 😁 -
@Qaldim lynx runs well on win 10. I use it almost daily to check sites. If it is useable on lynx screen readers can also use the site good enough.
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git-gud14066yOpera is cool if you're ok with a chinese knockoff-chromium. if you have problems with firefox due to double standards, a privacy-focused browser from a consortium led by kunlun & qihoo 360 should immediately raise red flags.
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@Codex404 devRant doesn't work well with Lynx. JS-heavy sites don't work at all because most web devs havn't understood even the basics of graceful degradation.
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@Fast-Nop add-ons were *accidently* broken. They're changing how they work in a few years and royally f***ed up the user warning about it and instead accidently blocked them
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git-gud14066y@Qaldim double standards are double standards, whether you care about the topic in question or not.
also, may i ask what issue you have with mozilla? -
@Techno-Wizard Which tells me that nobody at Mozilla gave a fuck about testing even with one fucking extension installed.
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@git-gud I will sum it up briefly:
1. Extreme "political correctness". I have stopped following Mozilla for quite awhile, so I don't know if this has changed.
2. I don't remember reading a similar statement from them when Opera did the switch.
3. It's not about "losing diversity in browser ecosystem", it's about them becoming more marginalised. -
-Minty-2116yI believe Waterfox is still good. There's also GNU IceCat if you're as paranoid as Richard Stallman. I still use it as a primary browser.
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-Minty-2116y@irene They market themselves as a more private Firefox, not entirely sure what all they do
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@-Minty- I remember Waterfox's main selling was it was 64-bit. Ever since Firefox built the x64 version, I made the hop. I don't know how it distinguished itself after that.
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Given that Microsoft will be dumping Edge down the toilet flush (and creating an Edge skin for Chrome), I will have to switch browsers (if I want to surf the Internet).
I don't want to switch to Firefox, because I find Mozilla having double standards.
It's been ages since Chrome isn't my favourite, I am forced using it at work, so I'd rather avoid it using it at home.
That bring us to the Chromium-based browsers. Of the myriad out there, the two that piqued my interest are Opera and Vivaldi.
Both have their merits and flaws, but I am equally drawn to them.
My question is which one would you pick between these two?
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