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https://appleinsider.com/articles/...

Tl;Dr This guy thinks apple is poised to switch the Macs to a custom arm based chip over x86! He's now on my idiot list.

I paraphrase:
"They've made a custom GPU", great! That's as helpful as "The iPad is a computer now", and guess what Arm Mali GPUs exist! Just because they made their own GPU doesn't make it suitable for desktop graphics (or ML)!

"They released compilation tools right when they released their new platform, so developers could compile for it right away", who would be an idiot not too...

"Because Android apps run in so many platforms, it's not optimized for any. But apple can optimize their apps for a sepesific users device", what!? What did I miss? What do you optimize? Sure, you can optimize this, you can optimize that... But the reason why IOS software is "optimized", and runs better/smoother (only on the newest devices of course) is because it's a closed loop, proprietary system (quality control), and because they happen to have done a better job writing some of their code (yes Android desperately needs optimization in numerous places...).

I could go on... "WinTel's market share has lowly plataued", "tHeY iNtRoDuCeD a FiElD pRoGrAmMaBlE aRrAy"

For apple to switch Macs to arm would be a horrible idea, face it: arm is slower than x86, and was never meant to be faster, it was meant to be for mobile usage, a good power to Wh ratio favoring the Wh side.

Stupid idiot.

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  • 3
    5y
    Considering that Qualcomm+Microsoft already have working, selling-in-the-market Snapdragon powered laptops (check out Snapdragon 850 and 8cx), and considering just how good Apple is with SoCs, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually are working on ARM powered Macs. The architecture is easily good enough for everyday performance, I imagine it would be implemented for a MacBook Air to start with.
  • 0
    5y
    "Apple having their own proprietary chip system could be a competitive advantage", really? Android runs on anything, and because of that owns roughly Three Quarter's of the mobile market. Windows is the roughly same in PC's.

    There is no real competitive advantage, just wasted R&D.
  • 0
    5y
    @RememberMe I see what you mean, but Macs are praised for their speed, and this would be the quickest trip to losing even that.

    Unless arm manages to pick up speed significantly it's virtually impossible it'll happen.

    And Microsofts surface laptop doesn't even compare (specs-wise) to even a MacBook air. Plus Macos more heavy on recourses, and would not be able no handle the workloads most artists use it for.
  • 2
    5y
    @chabad360 take this with a grain of salt (too lazy to find less shady looking sources) but I think this is fast enough
    https://pcworld.com/article/...

    ARM based companies have been trying to muscle into the laptop and server space for a while, on the whole this is a great development.
  • 2
    5y
    Actually ARM is working on high-end chips that could soon enter the computer market. Some months ago I read about their latest chip, which was almost equivalent to an Intel i5 (it was clocked lower, but it was also much more efficient).
    It sounds weird, since we're used to associate ARM with cellphones and tablets only, but if they keep pushing in that direction (and they definitely are), we might have a new player enter the game of desktop cpus.
    I for one am curious to see what they will come up with
  • 0
    5y
    @RememberMe those tests measure the performance of MS Office, no kidding it matched an i5.
    But what about other, more intensive benchmarks (Cinebench, 3Dmark, etc.) would it match there?

    I'm taking this with more than one grain of salt.
  • 0
    5y
    @endor see above.
  • 2
    5y
    @chabad360 I have no idea since I don't own one and 8cx devices aren't exactly widely available. My point was, it's not as outlandish an idea as you were suggesting it was, considering companies are just starting to roll out ARM products that aren't built for smartphones or microcontrollers.
  • 0
    5y
    @RememberMe I got that, but even now it's still outlandish (remember it's as good as an i5 in an MS Office benchmark, not much), and even more so for apple (which most never do things first these days...).
  • 1
    5y
    TBF Apple has been stupid before. Just look at the OpenGL deprecation.
  • 0
    5y
    I honestly wouldn't be surprised if apple becomes the nintendo of computers.
  • 1
    5y
    @chabad360 They are cheap. That's why they have such a high market share. The running on a wide variety of hardware just leaves room for error.
  • 0
    5y
    @theKarlisK agreed, I do think apple will switch over, but at a more future point. It would be very foolish for them to switch over to a custom lapto chip now.
  • 0
    5y
    @inkt can you elaborate?
  • 0
    5y
    @inkt oh. Your talking about android. That's very true, and that's my point. Apple having an entirely proprietary hardware loop isn't a competitive advantage. For that matter, the opposite is true: not having a proprietary system is a competitive advantage.
  • 0
    5y
    Apple never used proprietary chips in macs, they used PowerPC...
  • 0
    5y
    @theKarlisK it's ok... We all make mistakes, but the question is if you learn from them.

    "I never make mistakes twice, I make them eight or nine times just to be sure"
  • 1
    5y
    @chabad360 I'm talking about windows or android. The low cost of hardware is responsible for high usage. I wide variety of hardware used is responsible for more software errors.
  • 0
    5y
    @inkt but its not errors, it's just that software runs marginally slower because of the lack of quality controlled hardware. It's a fair point, but it doesn't really make a big difference reality wise.
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