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Linux438105yI dunno, but that comment was unrelevant to the rant.
It has always been hot in the summer, this is not a new thing. -
@Linux well in the netherlands it is breaking temperature records ever recorded in the country... that definitely feels like a new thing.
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@Linux And we didn't experience it globally.
Global "warm periods" didn't happen since at least 2000 years.
See also: https://nature.com/articles/... -
Linux438105yI am not saying that climate change is not real, I am just saying that hot weather has always been a thing.
Here in Sweden, our hottest temperature ever recorded is from the 30's, and the temperatures last summer was actually not even close.
But hey, we Sweden wont complain over "bad summers" anymore lolol -
@MrCSharp one is just the result of the other. Global warming is what's causing climate change. But people seem to be unable to understand that 'global' warming doesn't mean you can't have extremely cold winters anymore.
So they switched over to using climate change (tbh, it's a better description, even though it's more generic). -
@arcsector actually ... this was recently proved to be false. Previous cyclical warming/cooling was always very local, not global. This time it's a global thing.
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@HisAxelency i dont wanna be "that guy", but technically since we don't have the purest 20 million years of temperature data we can't say that global warming isn't a cyclical phenomenon.
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@arcsector that argument goes both ways. But they have used data from sources going back about 2000-3000 years and showed that the 'cyclical' warming and cooling people are referring to have always been regional, never global.
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https://nature.com/articles/... -
@HisAxelency "using seven statistical methods" thats not data, those are predictions. But i get your point I'm just a skeptic of everything.
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@arcsector statistics require data to work with. They used the weather model prediction used to predict the effects of global warming, and used input data from historical sources, then checked the results with those historical sources to see if the predictions were correct. They ended up being correct in 99% of the cases.
But you can do a simple logic exercise too. You know co2 (and methane) are greenhouse gasses (proven fact, no discussion here). If you start adding them to the atmosphere for 100+ years ... -
@arcsector
What you want is a full proof by an experiment on (a) real world which, unfortunately, is quite hard to achieve as we don't have a second world.
About the predictions: Scientist made those statistics a few years ago and can show those are valid to at least today's date - there is no reason to object the models.
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