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I finally moved to Fedora Silverblue 30 which is a really awesome OS.

Silverblue Edition unlike the standard version, runs a immutable core. That means the entire FS is not writable except for certain parts that are mounted to /var. While this is limiting, this allows for atomic updates, which is the whole point of Silverblue.

Now this also might throw off even myself, because I might need to run VSCode in the host and I might need C++ libs. Fortunately there's a tool named toolbox that allows you to use standard DNF inside a OCI container. Now the thing is, now you need to tell your IDE to use it after installing it.

I wrote a little helper script to do just that. I wrote it primarily for VSCode but it should also work for your IDE if you happen to want to try to use Silverblue.

Helper script: https://t.co/sXYOgcwLBg?amp=1

Also if you wanna try Silverblue for yourself, here's some notes:

* To install apps, you need to run flatpak. Make sure you also have the flathub repo listed.

* don't use the Flatpak version of the IDEs. If possible, use the RPM versions. Silverblue allows you to install traditional packages (to some degree, not everything works in this thing because of the immutable design) in the host. So as much as possible if you need dev libs, use toolbox for those.

* Silverblue also comes with podman and buildah installed (aka what if Docker had no daemon and was more secure?)

*Do your updates via rpm-ostree upgrade, or turn the auto updater on if you're lazy

All in all I like this environment, I've used this kind of workspace before (Chrome OS), so its pretty easy for me to get used to.

What do you think guys, think you'll give it a shot?

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  • 6
    Sounds like using tinycorelinux as your daily driver, not a big fan of flatpak and such either, because it introduces often times awkward issues to begin with, so I doubt I could switch to it, also considering how bloated by default fedora on non server devices is, with all sorts of things pre-installed, instead of having checkboxes to remove them.

    It's an interesting insight though, haven't heard of silverblue until now.

    Another point on podman, how compatible is it really? can I just use the wide variety of available docker containers? does it have docker swarm or docker compose alternatives? what about the container definitions, are they drop-in from all Dockerfile yaml files?
  • 3
    Seems like they aren't big fans of swarm nor compose, sucks because kubernetes imho is such a complicated clusterfuck.
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    @JoshBent Any runtime that implements OCI can run whatever Docker runs
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    @JoshBent Silverblue also allows traditional package installs via RPM but not all RPMs are supported. I mainly use VSCode RPM because I don't like the Flatpak version in general since I want full access for dev tools
  • 1
    Well this was perfect timing. I was looking for a side project to tackle this weekend. Even have an old Lenovo just screaming to be formatted.
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