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You... don't know why you hate Java? Isn't that a just a little bit weird? Why hate it then?
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JavaScript, not because of the language, but because it can be used with 15 different module loaders, 3 preprocessors, 20 different frameworks, and i feel like most of the time it isn't even compatible. I like the idea of javascript, but because it didnt start out with a good ecosystem, people just build a fucking weird one.
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@RememberMe Java is my favourite language, and i also can't remember why i like her.
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NoMad141725yVB, vanilla JS, some of php, Angular, Ember, React, and other bunch of stuff I want to forget their existence. (I don't like frontend, ok?)
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@frogstair people stunned because they don't the problem, you faced. Things are which annoy you, might pleasure for others.
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Hinglish. But that's more of a pidgin than a language.
Oh, programming languages. Probably VB, but I don't tend to hate languages. -
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That's not a language, that's a space station 😝
Definitely a shit show, but I kind of exclude that because it's a DSL, doesn't do anything outside of its target "application." -
@SortOfTested Yeah, I agree. Such a shame as well, I'm sure there's loads of other folks who'd love to work with a proprietary locked-down convoluted bastardisation of Java circa 2004... 😂
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C0D4681465y@AlmondSauce it's... well it keeps me employed so 🤷♂️
Nothing like being forced to maintain governance in a platform that punishes the shit out of you for trying to customise it though, I do like a challenge, so that probably my fault I enjoy the brutality it adds to the relationship. -
@C0D4 Heh, I get it. I like a challenge, but when it feels so arbitrarily restrictive it does hack me off somewhat. I initially wondered whether I'd move my development career in that direction, but very much done the opposite - back to traditional backend for me.
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N0t325yProbably c. It such a useful language but I came from java and there are just so many differences between languages.
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@N0t3 That's a weird reason to hate a language. C is actually not *that* different syntactically in the grand scheme of things - Java is considered a C-style language.
Have a look at something like Haskell if you want something that's *completely* different! -
Parzi88335yC/C++, as i can't both abstract away manual ram I/O access and also require it at the same time
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Parzi88335y@RememberMe pointers are just dropped from ram, shit just doesn't work and it takes 300 lines or more to do shit other langs take 1 to do.
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@Parzi "pointers are dropped from ram" eh? Dunno what device you're talking about but all you need to get it to do is compute a memory address and issue a load/store instruction to that address.
Doesn't "*ptr = value;" get the job done? If you have wonky ram or virtual memory system (as many embedded/older devices do) you can have a function that computes said ptr and then deref it and store your value inside it. -
Parzi88335y@RememberMe no but like, "*ptr = value;" sometimes works and sometimes segfaults even if I have it do nothing but spin because the pointer's just dropped. Even without paged RAM or anything, just straight, proper, expected conditions...
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@Parzi Are you sure some other thread somewhere isn't freeing that memory or page?
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Parzi88335y@RememberMe unless Windows has a massive global UaF, no. If that's literally all it does, is make a pointer than spin in a loop that does nothing but reference that pointer, it'll eventually just drop the pointer.
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Root825515y@Nanos If people are actively preventing things from getting better, use them as topsoil. Problem solved.
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@0x0000FFFF
They're a language level formalization of the accessor/mutator pattern. Just like a dozen other language.
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