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p100sch14465yLouis Rossmann showed on cam how poorly designed that thing is.
Letting your cable break just to make it an inch shorter and not properly accounting for material fatigue is pretty shitti for +1000$ products. -
VaderNT16175y> Because reasons
Because Apple has become a fashion company building cheesy watches and ear jewelry instead of good computers. They themselves admitted it with their name change from "Apple Computer, Inc" to just "Apple Inc".
"Microsoft has no taste" my ass. -
@VaderNT Microsoft really has no taste. Their products are fucking ugly. VSCode is almost convenient, but that's about it. However, they at least work (mostly), and they don't cost such a large amount of money that would set our expectations too high.
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VaderNT16175y@Lor-inc yes. The point is, Apple has become what they hated most... and exceeded it.
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bahua128015yWhen my 2015 MacBook pro(easily the best laptop I've ever used) bricked the desktop people gave me the 2017 model to replace it. It's staggering, what a complete turnaround it is in quality, especially compared to the 2015 model. The keyboard has mercifully not failed on me, but I use an external keyboard, partly because I prefer a nice mechanical, but mostly because the travel on the 2017 model's keys is almost zero, and that makes it infuriating. The lack of an escape key is an absolute slap in the face, along with the rest of the touchbar. I could go on, but I won't.
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bytewind1145y@p100sch and the riveted keyboard ensuring that if even a single drop of water touches it you have to replace the entire chassis at 1000$+ but hey people reward them with sales...
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p100sch14465y@bytewind I believe the only reason they can pull this shit is because of the discount for learning facilities. They force the attendees to buy the crap for theire 'ecosystem' locking them in, too.
Then the less tech people introduced to the ecosystem think that these issues are the norm as all other manufacturers rush to emulate the bad about them. And voila the populous believes 1000$+ macbooks are worth it. -
bytewind1145y@p100sch luckily their edu luck is running out... Below college schools ain't having none of their unrepairable unupgradeable crap. It's only colleges now propping them up
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theuser47815yAh yes, the only conceivable solution at this point is to reanimate Steve Jobs. I knew Apple was starting their descend down the shitter when they announced their Pencil and how to charge it, and how you cannot use their awful wireless mouse while charging. Stuff like that would never get past Steve Jobs. I'm not a fanboy or anything, but Jobs was the only one who could straighten out that sweatshop.
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VaderNT16175y@theuser
> Stuff like that would never get past Steve Jobs
I hate to object, but it did occasionally. From earlier times (overheating cube Mac) until the very end ("you're holding it wrong" iPhone antenna problems).
But still, this is on a new level. -
@VaderNT it's worth noting that as a large company, they never built anything computer-wise.
All hardware was manufactured outside of Apple, yet they claim their "computers" are amazing.
They're a software company with a control fetish and no security standards. -
@stonestorm wat?
Wikipedia: For more than three decades, Apple Computer was predominantly a manufacturer of personal computers -
@stonestorm That's a Genesis fallacy. Apple builds computers out of components manufactured elsewhere. The computers are built at Apple. Even though Apple themselves don't produce most of the components, those components stacked in warehouses aren't computers. They become computers because Apple designs and puts together specific arrangements of those components.
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@electrineer @Lor-inc You are correct, in the same way I "manufacture" my rigs at home.
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theuser47815y@stonestorm Not really seeing the problem. Even if they have never once touched a soldering iron, they have still assembled computers for the mass market (although the pricing is not really mass market friendly)
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@stonestorm If you started building and selling rigs for money, would that be money for free? If not, how would you describe in one phrase what your business does?
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@stonestorm I'm also pretty sure they design the laptops themselves since they are a large company, as you said. Who manufactures the parts is unrelated to the design being crap.
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ars140895y@M1sf3t Indeed, I didn't buy any of their hardware before (or after) the 360. I can't fathom dealing with hardware that is worse than one with a ridiculously high failure rate.
@electrineer Yeah. I didn't correct any of what I typed with it. I'm using my phone at the moment which is why the writing isn't fucked.
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This Macbook Pro (2017 model I think?) is probably. the worst computer I've. purchased in my life. Really, the worst electronic device surpassed only by my old Xbox 360.
Not only is t he keyboard absolute shit. as. you can see from the way this was typed and riddled with extra spaces and dots, but apparently. the way the monitor was built doesn't. let y ou simply replace the flex cables if they kick the bucket, you have t o replace. the entire screen. Because reasons.
It seems it was a common issue but. they won't fix i.t without charging you for THEIR fuckup.
Never again.
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