I hate it how our profession became common over the last decade. We're nothing more than factory workers of todays day and age. Just take a look at petty midldle management above you all... and all underpayed and overworked devs out there... Nah, this ain't that glamorous proffesion I dreamed about as a kid.

It was coming for us all along, it was just a matter of time

I don't think early factory workers had the liberty and capabilities to build their own factories and products, which devs are capable to do.

I think account managers and project managers should be managed and answerable to devs. They are support staff for devs, not the other way round. It's born out of the traditional management structure, but it is not right and doesn't work.

Yeah, I think factory workers are the factory workers of our time.

Those people over at foxcon that make all the cellphones sure don't look like they're able to sit around, prod at a stress ball and grab a cup of coffee if they need one.

Right now, I'm sitting at the edge of a pine forest, on mobile Internet and VPN. There goes your factory analogy. ;-)

So true! Having worked a manual job for six years prior to retrading to a job where I can sip tea and sit on dev rant, I really can't empathise with the first-world moaning. I literally can't believe I get paid as much as I do to do as much as I actually do. Its fantastic. Currently in my third dev job, and they've all been degrees of cushty. @nmunro

I've worked as a factory worker for a couple of years and now in IT. I still haven't seen a IT workplace as professional as the factory...

When I was a kid, developers were considered to be magicians. No client or manager ever questioned what a developer said. Salaries were astronomical... Now... I really don't think there's anything special about this job. It's just a job. I worked many different jobs before getting into development, so (I think)? I know... It is a good way to earn money, but nothing more. No passion. At least, I lost it. I'm trying to get into game development now. It's the last hope for me before I give it up. Yea... finance, banking and retail does that to a person. You lose all hope in mankind. And, come to think of it... robots will put an end to our misery. Right. I'll stop now. Sorry y'all!

There are factory-developers, standalone-developers and shouldn't-be-developers ;)

<sarcasm> The field of Video game development is renowned for its easy hours and fair pay, especially towards developers.... </sarcasm> @WerewolfCustoms

@rantymcrantface Haha :) I know. I'm planning to run a small indie dev studio working out of an RV traveling around the globe. :) Nirvana, I tell you :)

@rantymcrantface so true sometimes I literally open the browser shift some code about while watching a whole series on Netflix working remotely on my sofa with a nice fire blazing cup of coffee and still get paid the end of the day, beats waking up at 6am going to a freezing cold building site and lugging scaffold poles around seriously fuck that! Granted working remotely can sometimes be reclusive and feel like house arrest but at least it's a UK jail with all the luxuries ;)

That sounds really nice, i hope that works out for you! Even if it dont, it would be a great anecdote for having tried. @WerewolfCustoms