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ArtOfBBQ3784ySo he was just a friend of the owner or something like that? Did he have good salesmanship?
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rox798464ysame situation I am in. I trained a girl and she isn't even know how to put if condition by her own :( still taking good packages.
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@rox79 WHAT??? That’s grounds for firing, I can’t imagine if statements being hard, a child can learn them. These people are robbing jobs from others who are truly competent. They’re fucking con artists!!! it’s sad that good developers are being rejected bc these fucking weasels have their Jedi mind tricks to swoon dumb recruiters.
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@rox79 she’s a fucking phony!!! This is below fizz buzz, i mastered if statements pretty much as soon as I saw them for the first time. Anyone who can’t use them are NOT developers. At all. Now that’s ok, not everyone is cut out and they can be successful elsewhere, I’m totally cool with that, but taking a dev job without knowing how to code turns me beat red. Especially when they’re paid well
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tunneler824y@ArtOfBBQ no, in my case, not that I know of. Apparently he impressed management on the interview, but I still don't understand how he did it.
Also I don't get why management wants one of the team to be present at the interview and assess the guy and then shits all over their professional assessment. 🤷 -
ArtOfBBQ3784y@tunneler Humans gonna human. Asking for advice or input is kind of a social ritual sometimes, similar to people asking 'how are you' not actually wanting a story about how you are. Almost no one ever actually changes their opinion because others' input
Most people are impressed when they see the traits they like about themselves in someone else. So managers may have been impressed by him because he gave some standard manager answers to behavioral questions or something like that. Maybe he told a story about saving the day by delegating someone, lol. They probably didn't even try to assess his engineering skill. How could they?
I know it's brutal if you're on the wrong end but that's the world we live in - people make huge hiring decisions after talking to someone for 15 minutes based on their gut feeling. If you can sell yourself in those 15 minutes the monetary payoff is huge.
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This happened a couple months ago, but I wanted to share this one, since it still baffles me.
We were hiring and had this weird candidate. The team said no to the guy after the interview, management still hired him and pressured us to train him, which cost us tons of hours we had to somehow squeeze in during a hot phase of our project.
After almost 3.5 weeks training he had to hand in a small component. What he handed in was brainlessly duplicated, half of the stuff in there wasn't even used, the other half wasn't working properly. At the review we asked questions about the code he handed in - he could not answer one of them.
We then had a big argument with management to let the guy go, which they eventually unhappily agreed to.
The icing on that cake of a story: Turns out, the guy was hired as a senior dev with a way higher paycheck than most of the devs on the team. Wtf?!
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management sucks
management logic
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