I hate when studying computer engineering but university want us to learn non technical subjects or outdated topics such as applet in java, who the fuck is using applets now days,
Or no single word about react, flutter,or recent framework and teaching php and JSP,and vb.net

Oh applets still have uses in low-sec gov't things.
There is a reason 2 billion devices run Java, after all.

@melezorus34 applets aren't deprecated??? Because of security reasons

@viral they just go with java 8, lmao

@viral I have friends in GovSec. Java applets are here to stay.

Old stacks are also a great teaching tool. You must know where we came from to know where we must go.

Applet development is still a cornerstone in how apps are developed today. If you just learn the new JS hotness it only sets you up to fail when the new "Zerg" frontend comes out and it's based off of [not JavaScript].

That's the one thing I'm looking forward to so much tbh. The day when someone makes a more popular language than JavaScript. All the script-kiddies will cry out at once and then be silenced.

The schadenfreude will be orgasmic.

Although yes it's outdated, it's more important to learn the principles than specific stuff, that's what programming in university is (supposed to) be for. You can always pick up react or whatever on your own based on where you want to work. I've never seen anyone good with the principles of programming struggle to learn some framework or library, but I've see a LOT of the other way round.

I had applets and JavaFX and what not in my OOP class back in undergrad too, but the point there was to just do more object oriented programming since the course was about introducing OOP, not really to teach you some specific library or framework, which I can totally appreciate tbh.

Would it be better if I had something more modern? For sure, yes, it would be good to kill two birds with one stone. Did it do the job of teaching OOP though? Also yes. Imo people really get hung up on specifics when it's the basics that matter more especially in uni, and the basics have basically been the same since the 90s (maybe more focus now on parallel/asynchronous programming because multicore/low power is important now, but the fundamentals of programming are the same).

Old tech doesn’t die unfortunately

Jdk 17 released today and afaik they deprecated applets.

@IntrusionCM they *publicly deprecated applets.

Government contracts is Oracles bread and butter. I guarantee you there's a JDK 17 with applet support IF the government wanted it.

... But they're probably still using 8 in most places...

@sariel well....

That's what the clouds for.

Put everything in the cloud, the WAF will be enough to keep the insecure stinking pile of shit secure.

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@melezorus34 there are devs still using java 8 in my company and don't want to update!!!

I have legit been given shit trying to refactor code to run on java 11 and 15. It was super buggy and contained thread.sleep everywhere, so I thought might as well and unit test it along the way.

We don't use any features deprecated in java 11+ ...

@PepeTheFrog yea some shit breaks as soon as you change versions for some reason.