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athlon
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Who’s better at releasing unfinished/half baked projects that are eventually killed in the span of 5 years or less?

In this corner, weighing in at 264 killed projects, undefeated in search engine industry - Google!
And, in this corner, weighing in at 73 killed projects, the murdered of Nokia, Windows RT and soon to (probably) be Surface Duo and Windows 11 on ARM - Microsoft!

I personally think it’s Microsoft - when they do, they kill it in a spectacular way.

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  • 5
    This rant was made of my disappointment in Microsoft’s lackluster support of ARM64 Windows - honestly, the fact that Visual Studio and Microsoft Teams STILL do not even have Insider ARM64 versions is baffling.
  • 7
    @athlon There's no reason for WOA, and it is destined to fail like all the other non-x86 Windows versions. Microsoft lacks three important features that Apple has.

    First, Apple has full control over the hardware and tells users "my way or the highway."

    Second, Apple has selected the 10% of users who don't care about backward compatibility.

    Third, Apple didn't just buy some cheap COTS ARM crap, but planned ahead very carefully, gotta give them that. They axed 32 bit back with Catalina so that this would not be blamed on the M1, then didn't implement ARM32 at all.

    Plus they made the memory ordering configurable weak/strong which was crucial for Rosetta2 to work as translator and not as emulator with 50% performance loss.

    In addition to that, Windows isn't a priority for MS anymore because they have more profitable projects such as their cloud crap.
  • 1
    Plus Apple breaks compatibility.

    MS just adds another layer of garbage on the previous pile of rotten garbage.
  • 3
    Google tends to promote their devs’ a ideas and release them even if they are not 100% sure they’ll profit from it, and if something doesn’t work well enough they kill the project, embracing the “fail fast” philosophy.

    Microsoft somehow keeps fucking up stuff which works (Nokia, w10 pairing cortana to the start bar making everything crash if cortana crashes, various video game sagas… all T-pose for halo, please)

    I’d say the big M has my vote.
  • 1
    @Fast-Nop I get that, but ffs - it’s been 3 years since Surface Pro X release and they’ve done basically nothing to improve their software ARM support.

    I was really hoping for ARM build of Visual Studio 2022, but they are saying they don’t even have plans for it at the moment. Maybe VS2025 will have it?
  • 0
    @IntrusionCM and leave the previous pile of garbage in place so that developers who either don't know better, or don't want to learn the new stuff can keep using the previous garbage heap.
  • 0
    To the people asking for an ARM visual studio, are you doing c# development on an M1? Why?
  • 0
    @sleazyboi Why is that even a question? There are native Windows 11 ARM devices, like Microsoft’s very own Surface Pro X.

    It’s about Microsoft supporting their own damn ecosystem.
  • 0
    How else are Google devs supposed to get promoted?
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