Chasing happiness in minimizing suffering is the lamest way to live a life.

nah. chasing happiness in maximising other peoples suffering is.

@tosensei I think that's the best way

Actually, usually people that work toward minimizing suffering are doing that for its own sake, and then happiness comes to them as a side-effect. They're not "chasing" it. Definitely chasing happiness in any way is likely a doomed effort. One should pursue meaning, and in the process you may be happy.

To be fair, to some suffering is happiness.

Suddenly realising how many psychopaths are on here...
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@atheist whoopsie daisy

@kiki freedom and altruism are not mutually exclusive.

@steev on the contrary. granting another person freedom is the highest form of altruism.

freedom and altruism necessitate each other.

@kiki you can't steal it.

i'm freely giving it to the world.

@iiii work for what?

@iiii it has a very small critical mass, actually. just think of the people you call "family" or "friends". do you do good stuff for them just for your own benefit? i guess no. are they people that make your life better? i surely hope yes.

and even if the "critical mass" were very high - like everything, the change has to start somewhere - or it can't happen.

@iiii "strategy"?

@iiii my quotation marks were meant to question why you think altruism is a strategy. because "strategy" implies that you hope to get something out of it. but the very idea of altruism is that you're doing it for others. it's not for you. it's not attached to a "return on investment" or any other bullshit that seems to be drilled into everyone's heads by capitalism now. you just do it cuz it's the right thing to do.

@iiii that answer is the kind of worldview i'm complaining about.

@iiii that's your opinion. i guess we need to just agree to disagree. :)