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@Demolishun No, the holographic universe just tells you that you are actually two dimensional and you are just projected from an infinitely far away surface into the illusion of three dimensions.
And if you happen to fall into a black hole, you would’n actually fall into it but instead would be just smeared all over the spherical surface of that black hole, in full two dimensional glory. -
his time matters to him.
just because you people drive him crazy doesn';t mean he doesn't care about his time but if you'd all like some more punishment. -
@Lensflare Well, to be honest, after seeing someone try to explain it on some random website, sounds like crap to me.
Why would we need to project a 3rd dimension in a 2d space? I think the duck theory applies here. -
@Demolishun
Black holes defy our understanding.
Such extreme conditions *do* break our laws of physics.
Dimensions as we know them hold very little meaning in such situations. -
iiii90852y@Demolishun according to modern physics it is impossible to accelerate to speed of light because it takes infinite amount of energy.
And event horizon is exactly that: a barrier which accelerates matter to the speed of light with gravity, so you can reach the event horizon but never cross it, according to known physics.
Also general relativity states that the time of a thing moving at a light speed slows to a halt. For an outside observer someone falling into a black hole would "look" as if the video feed was paused at the event horizon. -
kiki351872y@iiii yep this is what fascinates me the most
I low-key want to jump into a black hole just to feel the time stopping
People with near-death experiences, especially high voltage injuries survivors report the same feeling -
@kiki from your perspective, time would flow normally. You won’t notice any difference.
It’s the outside observers that would see you freezing in time. Well, actually they won’t see you, because the light emitted by you would be redshifted into oblivion.
Relativity is weird. -
@iiii
Some misconceptions there.
An event horizon (or a black hole for that matter) does not accelerate matter past the speed of light. Close to, but never past. After all, if it could, things could actually escape the event horizon.
As you correctly pointed out just prior, nothing *with mass* (this part is important) can reach c, as it does take infinite energy.
Also, visually, a far away observer would see the object fade out of existence, as light becomes extremely redshifted (as @Lens flare said), and thus losing energy, up to it taking more than the age of the universe for a photon to be emitted, which means that theoretically you could still detect the object, but you don't. -
iiii90852y@CoreFusionX also the object would be smeared over the surface of the event horizon (because the black hole spins)
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@iiii that's not because of the black hole spinning, that's because the photons emitted by the object get curved by the black hole, so you'd see them coming from... Unexpected directions.
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@CoreFusionX as far as I understand it, it is not known how information is encoded on the surface of a sphere. We just assume that is somehow must be encoded.
And I would assume that this smearing depends on how it is encoded and is not like actual smearing that we would imagine from our intuition in the real world.
Anyway, it’s also interesting to note that, due to the holographic duality existence, the person falling into that black hole would not experience being smeared onto to surface. The person would just fall straight towards the center and experience that.
Maybe spaghettified first. -
How do you know that not everything you hold dear is already replaced by an exact copy?
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iiii90852y@CoreFusionX spinning black hole which drags and curles time-space also plays role in that scattering 🤔
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@iiii
Yes, the ergosphere plays a part in that, but it's not a necessary condition. A Schwarzchild black hole would produce the same effect, even without an ergosphere.
(Note that all "astrophysical" black holes, like the ones in the center of galaxies, are assumed to be Kerr (ie, rotating) black holes anyway.) -
@CoreFusionX all black holes are assumed to be Kerr because it’s practically impossible not to gain angular momentum and be perfectly still.
Types of fear:
1. Gross-out: you come back home and get attacked by an army of centipedes.
2. Horror: you come back home and get attacked by an alligator.
3. Terror: you come back home and realize that every single object was replaced by an exact copy.
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