Fuckkkk. Stuck between the Thinkpad T470p or the XPS 15 9560.

I have the 9550. Love it
Haven't looked at the ThinkPad though

If the keyboard is important to you then Thinkpad, no question. XPS probably has a better screen.

I'm with T470p.

You can easily upgrade or repair the Thinkpad.

As I had bad experiences with an unmaintainable Surface Pro that was one of my reasons to go with a Thinkpad. Fancy ultrabooks are fun until the thing doesn't boot anymore and you realize you can't even open the case.

@deadlyRants I spilt coffee all over my XPS. The bottom comes off. We took the RAM, battery and SSD out to dry off

You don't even need to dry Thinkpads :p

@itsdaniel0
Do you run Linux on it?
Everything about the 9560 I love.
Only downside are the QA issues and

@pajaja
Keyboard is important, but I've been told that the XPS has a nice one too. Though I'm aware Thinkpad are notorious for the keyboards. It's not a deal breaker.

@itsdaniel0
Yes they're both very upgradable. You can even exchange the battery for the XPS as well. Main difference being there's no buldge from the huge battery of the XPS. :)

With the Thinkpad on the other hand, you can probably get a similar experience at a cheaper price (save like $400+ with the sales now, plus a membership discount). Then again, the XPS and it's form factor is just ridiculously​ beautiful, even though the battery is a lot larger which I find crazy. Still has a beautiful 1080p display and I've heard the T470p is not so good.

@QuantumAtom I don't run Linux, nope. Just Windows 10. A .NET dev here 😊
I've the 4K screen. It is crisp! Every now and then there can be a small flicker, but I barely notice it

Are you going for bigger batter and SSD, or smaller battery and HDD?

@itsdaniel0
Ahh, gotcha lol.
But I'm going for the bigger battery and ssd with the FHD panel. I believe it's the $1600-1800 model.

@QuantumAtom I doubt you'd get a weird flicker though. Heard there were a few issues with the 4K panels
Pretty sure the FHD is matte too. No glare 🤣

@itsdaniel0
Yeah I've heard of a few issues for the 4k panel.
And lol yes! Love that about it too.

@itsdaniel0
How are the fans when idle/your average use?

@QuantumAtom I can't say I hear them. I have 2 VS instances running right now and can't hear it. I do have the TV on though, as a disclaimer

The only time I really notice the fans is if I'm running a migration of some kind. Parsing a lot of data at once
Or, it's in the sunlight. The black carbon finish does get hot in direct sun

@QuantumAtom Don't forget I have the 9550, it's predecessor. I doubt that would make too much difference

@itsdaniel0
Thanks for the info!
And ahh yes, I forgot. My now laptop (Dell latitude 6430u) will blast the fans at full speed even when idle, Smh.

@QuantumAtom A build up of dust, perhaps?

@itsdaniel0
Nope. Cleaned.
I did some research a bit ago and there was a apparently a manufacturing problem initially.

Hi! What if I need Linux support, is t470p better than xps15? Thanks!