So am teaching a friend of mine some Java basics. Unfortunately he keeps insisting on using Eclipse to be taught. Tried showing him the beauty of InteliJ but he says it's too confusing 🙃. So here I am typing some full codes that I could have magically inserted on InteliJ. I don't know how long I can take it.

If he studies basics, he shouldnt have an ide autocomplete everything

@Matano Try using BlueJ.

Problem is he does not want anything other than eclipse

Let him compile and run the source code through the console. New Java developers should learn that process. Any ide hides too much at this point.

@Matano LoL

I second the command line comment.

@aayusharyan oh jeez that takes me back lol, first programming class where we had to control a virtual robot to pick up cones and stuff lol it could only turn left,

Fun times.

@f03n1x Maybe, there was a hidden treasure on Left, LoL

@aayusharyan lol nah it was to learn about methods, to turn right we had to make a method that had turn left three times.

I just remembered in the exam I got marked down for using for and while loops :/

@f03n1x LoL... BTW, I too have got my marks deducted for using things the examiner didn't understand. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@aayusharyan lol wow that's sad but I guess they have a standard, though for me we did learn for and while loops in the first class but I think it was the basics of the basics

@f03n1x We learnt Arrays in Second Year of Engineering (LoL), and I leant all that stuff like 5 years ago... So, in my first Year, I got my marks deducted for using some dope code, that the examiner didn't understand and thought that I copied from Google, (Yeah, he said copied from Google, not the Internet). But, that's life bro... Haha

@aayusharyan lol well our lecturer didn't know how to answer questions about the labs, when we asked she'd say hang on, run to her desk and bring a piece of paper with written answers LOL

I did about a week's worth of YouTube tutorials before I started my degree TheNewBoston helped me out so much lol, I ended up teaching some of the people in my class about all the basics.

@f03n1x Haha, BTW, you are a student?

@aayusharyan was, graduated in 2015 :D

@f03n1x Yea New Boston really helped me. Planning to tell my friend to go through his videos and even more Java tutorials videos. It all goes down to if he got passion for learning or not. Don't want to spoon feed him. He got to learn to hustle like I did.

@Makenshi I also agree.

@Matano well Bucky makes it incredibly easy to start programming, and incredibly easy to get lost in a reserve lol

Having the vids so short definitely helps too. But like you said, if you're friend has the motivation to learn.

@f03n1x True. One of my favorite teachers. Too bad he stopped making videos.

It's up to him.

@Matano damn :/ didn't know he stopped making videos

@f03n1x if you cant use loops make a loop using an if statement and recursive functions. Just hope your callstack won't overflow.

@f03n1x Sorry to be the bearer of such sad news

@Codex404 oh this was a programming 1 exam, and the first question they literally just wanted the same method three times, I'm well passed that stage lol

@Matano no worries it was bound to happen at some point, there's another YouTube channel I used to watch (only got to the 40th episode) burgzerg arcade, that guy was literally creating a multiplayer rpg from scratch using Unity, I think it might have been close to an MMO, the only reason he stopped was because his son had to go to the hospital for awhile, I thought he completed stopped but then he started making some a couple months ago. Just checked it was 285 videos!

I'd love to go through that series just some of the stuff is really outdated :/

@f03n1x Will go through the series.