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hell165968yMost non-dev people don't give a shit about processes and well though anything, they just wanna get what they want now... and it is probably different from what they wanted yesterday.
Its up to the company offering the services to tell them how things should be done and put it in a contract and make it be respected or else its gonna end like a never ending update request on unfinished projects.
I know it sucks but working with clients is this shit you are experiencing like 60% of the time -
burswag9298y@azous are entry-level/junior developers expected to deal with this? This is handled by management, right? Maybe it's because we're an extremely small company, that's why I'm thrown into this too.
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Pay off debt and start looking or retooling in order to get a new position. Make a plan or you will get frustrated and quit before you are financially ready,
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@burswag - If you're a recent college grad and took the right software engineering courses, you're well prepared for doing that kind of stuff. A lot of colleges won't prep you for gathering requirements from clients that don't know what they want.
It's a coin flip in my experience whether it's your job or not to negotiate requirements. Best to ask your supervisor/manager for clarification and carry on from there.
You're not alone, brosef. Most of us have been there. -
burswag9298y@javajavajava I went to community college for an Associates for computer science, but that was years ago, and the curriculum was pretty bad and outdated.
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Don't walk out. Make the situation better. That is what true devRanters do.
You are right about the design sign offs so you already learned a valuable lesson. Their mistakes are your learning opportunities. And sounds like you will learn a lot on their dime. Thoughts? -
@Jumpshot44 this. Tough it out while having an eye on the next step. Do your time and learn how not to do up close.
It's not easy but decide how long you need to stay to get to the next level, grit your teeth and do it. That doesn't mean to take any and all bullshit but you have a goal and you're going to get there.
My first job after leaving school early, stuck with it exactly 3 years to account for missing final exams and not going to college. At the end I quit, took a 3 month break in Australia and had another job within 1 week of returning. Confidence was restored and after that I was the one being head-hunted, not my college grad peers.
Have a plan, stick to it, you'll do well!
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OMG, more changes requested by a client for their website. Co-worker is wondering why they're doing these requests and is asking my boss if the design confirmation process has been skipped.
I'm a junior developer, and this is my only experience so far. I don't know shit how to deal with these stuff. I just wanna focus on development right now. Have a proper team to guide me. Be in an environment where I can get strong technical learning. I don't know how to deal with all these politics yet.
I wanna walk out but I can't. I can't be selfish to my wife and let her be the only source of income, seeing as she even has it worse and wants to get out of her workplace too. I've done it before, can't let it happen again.
Sorry for the drama. I gotta vent out.
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