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@gruff goodness what a well articulated argument. Makes total sense.
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@hashedram also probably we got tyred to argue after 1000 rants on this
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@Alice Cheers to that.
I say: "Let's go the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over." -
@AndSoWeCode How does this have anything, and by that I mean *anything* to do with the delusional (irrational) fear of persecution, threat and/or conspiracy?
@gruff
Yeah sure, why don't we, without even asking for arguments, invalidate all concerns people have about this at once by default? -
@Alice I don't think that at all, my personal concerns have nothing to do with that (yet).
That's my point, some people may have concerns/arguments as for why they see this as bad which might be very different from what everyone thinks. -
@Alice ++++++++
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@Alice I agree with you on that one. What bothers me though is that I literally have to go into defensive mode of my own reasons at nearly every post because even commenting that you're disagreeing with this move will get you a storm of criticism or even hate without people even listening to your side.
I've had to explain on about every post that some people might have legitimate concerns and tbh that's fucking annoying.
But yes, agree with what you're saying. Although, bullshit for you might be legitimate for another person. -
@Alice Thats the problem with faulty analogies.
A better analogy is something like "would you drink a glass of wine if you knew the wine maker has a history of poisoning people, but you didn't see him add the poison yet" -
Oh please. Literally nothing is really going to change.
The original team are staying, and GH’s CEO is going over to Microsoft.
I really find the whole “omg big corporation!” rhetoric to be infantile and annoying.
Microsoft get so much benefit out of GH being open, and they also contribute to it.
Anyone that’s been paying attention can see they’re shifting focus towards devices and services, and really focusing on winning developer mind share.
GH was also a private corporation taking in big money, as if they too didn’t have incentives to do things that were to the detriment of the community sometimes. -
I will say however, that of course Microsoft have done bad things, and will continue to do so.
Guess what: a company is a group of people, and as with any group of people, you’re always going to get dumb / short-sighted / malicious things happening.
But on balance I really do think this is going to be a good thing.
Of course we’re going to see some smoother integration for Microsoft stack devs on the platform, that goes without saying, but is that really a problem?
At the end of the day, it’s a decision made by people that clearly thought it was a good idea, and it has literally no real bearing on you.
If you don’t like it, rather than moan about it, stop using the service and find or build an alternative that better aligns with your values. -
@musician kinda hard to stick to facts if speculating. Fact that Microsoft has a history with acquiring some companies and pushing them over the edge. Fact that as of late Microsoft has been pushing towards more OSS (with Linux subsystem and other git projects). What will be the end result? Nobody knows. Personally, I would speculate that they would try integrate Azure and/or VSTS into it but not anything ground breaking. Also fact that it will take a few months (if not a year) to finalise the sale so still time to see true intentions before they come into play.
Lastly a fair portion of those going to gitlab/bitbucket are just bandwagoning. Some people said MS is bad and they should switch - they switch as they see others doing it. It’s the same as language circle jerk - you read that language x is shit and just mindlessly spew that garbage every chance you get to appear relevant and educated. -
I just don't like to support the big companies, this includes all of those, MS, fb, Google, Amazon. So if someone buys github, I won't use it anymore. That's all the reason I need. I want many small distributed companies. Not a few gigantic cooperations that control everything. No need for any concerns.
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With the same logic, things like vs code could never have happened. Perhaps, Microsoft profits most of keeping gh as free and open as it is - and the good publicity of that.
I do get that one does not like big companies. But Microsoft, Apple, Google and the like didn't get that big and, more importantly, stay alive, by not doing well. -
@joewilliams007 wow already five years, actually it improved with free stuff like cicd tools...but shh don't tell it to Ms haters, it's a secret
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@dontbeevil i too am a Ms hater, but i still enjoy the current state of GitHub, so i would like to point out the positive stuff aswell. its all about the constructive criticism!
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That's a good one!
Dear people who think Microsoft buying GitHub is fine because Microsoft is more supportive of open source than before.
Here's the facts.
1) Microsoft is a large tech company investing in many things. That's a fact.
2) If Microsoft were to exploit GitHub, it would be a benefit to other departments in Microsoft. This is also a fact.
(For example, if tomorrow GitHub was tied to azure or some annoying shit like that.)
3) If such exploitation occurs, it will most likely be to the detriment of the free community of developers. This is a highly probable outcome.
4) The only question now is this.
"Does Microsoft care about open source enough to cut down on potential profit."
The answer of any sane, unbiased individual had to be no.
This is why people leave GitHub today. It is NOT because some childish hatred for Microsoft. In fact, I would've personally moved out of GitHub if "any" other large tech company had bought it, thereby compromising it's neutrality.
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