I'd probably get laughed at for even mentioning "php"..

But what is the best framwork for getting started with PHP to build some complex site?

I have seen some here talking good about either codeignitor or laravel. Not sure.

Laravel

What he said: @nate

But i guess maybe Symfony also works, have never used it before

Laravel

Laravel no doubt. All I have heard about codeigniter is shit, poop and diarea.

@danharrin I'm surprised someone hasn't already tbh

Check out laracasts, they have good tutorials on
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Cakephp of course

And you wont get laughed at, there are a ton of php programmers here

@sharktits yes he will, not because he is using PHP, but because he thinks we will and I dont want to dissapoint him

@Codex404 if u make fun of him u aint my friend anymore

@sharktits im not making fun of him, he expects us to laugh so I will so I wont dissapoint him...

And we were friends?

@gintko I personally think laravels scalability is about the same i not better than symphonies.

Code quality is really about the developer and not the framework.

The routing system of laravel is one of the things that makes things a bit more scalable in my opinion.

@gintko @Codex404 Keep in mind laravel uses parts of symfony!

@RicoNijeboer indeed, but the way the framework works is different.

Laravel 1 was basically a copy of symphony. With each version they slowly abandon symphony features and replacing them with its own.

Ive read 80% of laravels source (few versions ago), and almost all functionality is behind the scenes going to symphony code but with extra features or more complete features. Where symphony pluralizer has a big list of exceptions laravel adds a few regularly used ones to it.

Fat free framework or Laravel.

Buuuuuut beware. Underneath the nice expressive and consistent Laravel API lies Symfony. Which is a behemot of a framework(Java Spring level)

So gotta watch out for that shit.

I'd say Laravel. It's also quite beginner friendly

I'm liking laravel. Haven't got stuck with any issues so far. I guess it's a good start I'm following a pluralsight course on it.

I'd say Laravel, and mention PhalconPHP