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Just installed Visual Studio and Sql Server for a project on a Windows VM. Thought I'd feel comfortable as I started proper development in .NET.

I fucking hate Visual Studio and SQL Server now. The whole setup, Windows, VS, everything just feels horrible, slow, and takes ages to set up to the point you can use it.

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  • 6
    Java Spring Hibernate mariaDB master race. 😁

    Don't feel too bad about it. ASP.NET has pretty great integration with MSFTSQL, but you do pay for it with speed.
  • 2
    @starrynights89 my last project was a python API with an Angular front-end, so yeah, .NET feels sluggish...
  • 1
    @DucksCanCode Did you like working with Angular? I haven't used it for full stack but I'm curious about learning it.

    I have a soft spot in my heart for Visual Studio (it was my first IDE) but it is slow as hell.
  • 7
    Welcome to .NET side of the world. I literally cry almost everyday when working on .NET.
  • 3
    Well to be fair you are working in a VM no? I mean i can get the slowdown for it that way.
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    @starrynights89 I like it, but my learning curve was a bit rushed. I'd love to go back to it but I don't have the time yet sadly...
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    @AleCx04 I would as well but I've given it 4 GB RAM and I've disabled everything I don't need for development. It was fine(ish) before Visual Studio and SQL Server, now it's just shite :/
  • 0
    @DucksCanCode brother even on the best machine I would not attempt that convo under 16gb of ram. Specially not on a VM. Hey man hate .net all you want, dont get me wrong, i just thought that maybe going physical might ease your pain.
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    @DucksCanCode 4GB ram for a windows machine?..
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    But what about dotnetcore
  • 1
    @DucksCanCode so for comparison, your python/angular project, was running on the same vm?
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    I know it like that since visual Studio 6 (97/98). Microsoft products all take ages to install
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    @starrynights89 mssql is currently the fastest rdbms available. Mariadb is arguably the worst widely used rdbms.
  • 2
    @gardenGnome asking the real questions here...
    If you can, always go with .net core as many things that were done badly in .NET are fixed in Core resulting in Core being way faster than Framework
  • 1
    You can actually write and work with C# just in Visual Studio Code. (:
  • 0
    @julkali I've not had a look yet but now you've said that I'm probably gonna try it. Thanks!
  • 1
    I would start with .NET Core and Visual Studio Code too. No need for heavy VS installation at the beginning.
  • 2
    Have you tried JetBrains' Rider? Sort of a response to VS bloat. Obviously not as full featured as VS, but that's the benefit.
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    anyway...let's say that vs installation take 1 hour, and lunch start 1 minute (worst case scenarios) ... at the end of project I still prefer to work this tool as they make me more productive and everything easier
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    @platypus I like jetbrains, I'll have a look. Thanks!
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