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linuxxx
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Visual Studio Code.

I've tried you because of hearing a lot of good stuff about you. I'd switch back to netbeans regardless because I love netbeans and I always try to use as little as possible from companies like Google/microsoft/facebook (and others) but what you're pulling right now is un-fucking-believable.

I've disabled ANY AND EVERY form of calling home I could (find) in your settings. Crash reports, automatic updates, metrics, you name it. I've searched all the fucking settings but I can't find any other home calling thing that's enabled and yet:

I'm monitoring every goddamn DNS request (through my own DNS server) and I'm still seeing calls to a Microsoft owned domain. Closed all my browser sessions and you as well and it stopped. Started browser again but not you, nothing.
Started you again: BAM. Calls to that damned Microsoft owned domain again.

If you can't honour my decision for disabling any form of home calls, go fuck yourself.

Netbeans, I'm back, I've missed you 💜

Comments
  • 5
    GitHub is owned by Microsoft but git integration is good?
  • 5
    Have you tried jetbrains products? They're incredibly powerful, albeit a bit expensive.

    I haven't quite checked if it phones home, but that might be worth a try, I found them incredible coming from NetBeans
  • 2
    Turned off codelens?
  • 2
    @FMashiro it does for licensing because it's all about SaaS now...
  • 1
    @FMashiro I think the subscription is pretty good value after 12 months you get a perpetual license
  • 1
    @gruff wait what? So I can cancel and keep the software? How much is 12 months cost?
  • 1
    @billgates it does on e to validate it, and you can also just use the offline verification, so not sure if that is still a valid concern, but I'm no expert
  • 1
    @gruff it's pretty good, but still expensive as a student, but definitely worth every penny! (I have the education license which is free, but I'll be buying a licence as soon as I'm no longer eligible)
  • 2
    @billgates you pay for updates, so one year of licensing, and after that year you're allowed to keep the last version forever, and you can buy an update licence down the road whenever you want
  • 13
    But why aren't you using vim yet? 🤔
    Sorry, couldn't resist 😝
  • 3
    Update check? Or did you turn off that as well?
  • 1
    yeah vs code is electron based.
    So it's a chromium based webbrowser which checks for updates.
  • 2
    @FMashiro it's not that expensive for individuals though. Something like 250 bucks for a year for all the things.
  • 3
    @billgates 90 bucks for one particular IDE. 250 for all at once.
  • 2
    @irene well, I mean, I'm not saying it's overly expensive, just that as a student, that more than my monthly take-home
  • 0
    @FMashiro still manageable 🤔
  • 4
    @irene again, not saying it isn't manageable, I'm just stating that 1: it's more than people are used to (aka free) and 2: that 250 is nothing to scoff at.

    Not arguing, just putting things into perspective
  • 2
    @FMashiro also depends on a country. 250 bucks for Murica is not the same as 250 bucks for, say, Russia or India.
  • 6
  • 0
    @FrodoSwaggins true... Even I used GH Desktop to push... I forgot about local repos...
  • 2
    @billgates what about gitlab, bitbucket, Gitea and whatever other gui things people have.
  • 0
    @Codex404 well in VS I'm pretty sure I saw a pop-up once to look to a GH account...
  • 2
    I mean... You mentioned several big companies, but, how can you compare an IDE with an Editor (on steroids)...
    I get the paranoia about the outbound communication with MS. But why from NetBeans to vscode?
    I mean, if you don't like it just uninstall it and try Atom or Sublime or Emacs.
  • 3
    It is an electron app...

    So it will inevitably call a server for stuff.
  • 3
    Aight time to fork and pull out all the MS stuff.

    Wait a minute... Do you think it could be checking for extension updates? Did you turn that off?
  • 1
    @M3m35terJ05h I don't have extensions and yes.
  • 1
    @FMashiro Yup and migrated from php storm to netbeans :)
  • 5
    Just check out the source code. Its open source after all :^)
  • 4
    @musician I'll be doing that with quite some software as soon as I've got time (signal being the first) but unfortunately, having 5 projects at the same time + a full-time job doesn't give me much room ;)
  • 0
    @linuxxx I know what you mean... Another side project when you already have too many is... daring. At best.
  • 4
    @billgates depends on ide, pycharm is 6.90 gbp at bottom end and rider 9.90 at the higher end or 19.90 for everything they do. If you have a student license they will give you another 25 percent off when you graduate. So all their products are equivalent to buying them 1 large coffee a week and maybe a bun at the end of the month. I justify my expenses in cups of coffee 🤣
  • 0
    NetBeans is 😍. Some people keep trying to convince me to go to Intellij Idea. Which I used before NetBeans. Even eclipse I used before NetBeans. Seriously NetBeans just stays out of my way and let's me do whatever I want whichever way I want. Intellij Idea felt like it was forcably holding my hand to do things the jetbrains way.
    As for vs code I refuse. I'd use Atom first since it's pretty much the same.
  • 0
    @-Tor why not sublime? It's more lightweight and faster overall.
  • 0
    @irene does Sublime have IDE type features? Also, is it open source? I've used it before and didn't see anything spectacular about it. For text editors I'll just use Gedit or Nano. Which is why a lot of times I don't even install atom anymore.
  • 3
    Code::Blocks FTW! 😍

    Sorry...couldn't resist... 😜
  • 1
    @-Tor sublime is not open source. It uses the winrar model where it'll bug you to pay for it but still let you use it
  • 0
    @M3m35terJ05h and people still use it although fine alternatives are available.
  • 1
    Haha netbeans xD
  • 2
    Visual studio code is an odd tool. Too much of a hassle to config and even then it glitches.

    For me the deal breaker were false positive intellisence errors in C and C++.
  • 0
    which microsoft domain?
  • 0
    @tbodt I'll look it up when I'm at my computer again!
  • 0
    @tbodt Very late but:

    - their update checking domain (yes, disabled that)
    - msecnd.com (if I remember correctly...)
  • 0
  • 0
    @granola Did that, still seeing requests.
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