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@linuxxx i just think linux can never grow into a proper os for everyday people unless we make a sweet ui for apt-get and config shit
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And what are Gnome-Software, Mint-software-Center or the one from Pop-Os other than that ? -
@kenogo well but i cannot install ubuntu on my grandparents machine (who are way more tech-savy than you think) without having to open at some point the terminal.
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@kenogo 1st Had to open the terminal for nvidia graphics drivers, that one is on nvidia tho'. 2nd had to make the printer work, well that shit is os independent. 3rd had to do some settings concerning bluetooth but i forgot what exactly.
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Well my grandfather was a letter-setter for old school printing, so he has one ANCIENT printer. But that bloody printer can print black white even though magenta is empty so i can see why he doesnt want to upgrade.
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@EdoPhoenix my parents (a techie as fuck) both run on Linux and have never opened a terminal :).
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@EdoPhoenix IMO printer support is much better on Linux than windows. Old printers don't have drivers for 64bit windows.
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@linuxxx @electrineer well that's something new to me, never had a struggle with windows printer drivers, especially with old printers.
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Windows, like Apple products, largely ‘just works’ at this point and does so with a diverse and lengthy list of hardware that it manages to support (and let’s not forget you can basically run software basically going all the way back to DOS). The thing the Linux community never gets is that not everyone wants to deal with compiling an OS from scratch with whatever flags set so it does what they want. And I’m purposefully exaggerating there but Linux in my experience takes a lot more work than Windows does to maintain both in enterprise and personal environments. Not to say it can’t work well, it certainly can and I always joke with people you can run it on systems with fried ram sticks and barely any memory and it will run for years without needing a reboot. But I don’t recommend it for anyone not comfortable with pluming the depths of the terminal.
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@asinglenoob I've recommended it to about all my family members and since then, I haven't had to do any support except for the occasional email stuff (which is there independent of which system they use).
When we had windows (nearly 9 years ago), I had to provide continuous support. Switched to Linux and no support (except for one mentioned above) since than at all.
Yes, that's nearly 9 years now.
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Im gonna commit a cardinal sin here, but i like windows. It's maybe not as flexible as linux, but dammit i do not have the time to meddle with my os all day.
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