How to fail (successfully):

Build your startup with Firebase.

Its that bad? 😦 im using it! 😨

@pai-shinoda avoid using 3rd party services especially for large projects such as startups unless you are forced to do so

You can argue about the database stuff, but, for the love of god, don't implement push notifications yourself

@SukMikeHok means, better deploy your own services? I dont mind i guess, if i have the time to do so. 3rd party allows me to quickly build mvp for idea validation and proof of concept..

For big project, u say avoid, mind telling how it hurt? Is it the cost?

@pai-shinoda avoid using 3rd party services when building a startup because you dont want to end up in a situation where you have to rely on somebody else in order for your product to continue working.... Unless you really have to use the service, use it... I too am struggling asf with this with a friend of mine about firebase notifications. They have a time latency delay where people dont get a notification in real time if they havent received one in a while. Etc. But i do unfortunately agree, you have to use some services because they have been developed by hundreds of developers over years of time and developing that by yourself from scratch would take 2 centuries...

@Kimmax i are agree

Whats wrong with firebase?

I am about to like firebase and now you say that.
can you elaborate more?

I totally disagree with your statement !
Why?
Firebase is of no difference with any other third party service such as Azure Web Service and the likes. It's even more encouraging for start-ups to use these services because it cuts down cost and optimizes deployment time while you focus on the product itself.