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AliancerS
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Hey Guys,
What do you think about Windows 10 shipping with a real Linux Kernel? Do you enjoy the love of Microsoft towards Linux? If yes, why?

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  • 5
    Linux is free open software. Anyone is allowed to do whatever with it. Personally I think it will greatly improve WSL.
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  • 1
    Why should it have two kernels? Except for corner cases.
  • 1
    @irene probably for better hardware pass through
  • 2
    I love the change in attitude from Microsoft towards Linux.

    As far as integrating ... nope, not my cup of tea. If I want a Jaguar than I'll get a Jaguar and not drop a Jaguar engine in my BMW.
  • -1
    @620hun the purpose?
  • 0
    Couldn’t they theoretically be forced to release the source code for Windows? Since it’s licensed with the GPL? 🤔
  • 1
    @RantSomeWhere No, only stuff created with the GPL licensed stuff.
  • -1
    @RantSomeWhere no. GPL only forces to release the modifications of the original GPL-licensed code. You can bundle derivative of the GPL-licensed code with proprietary and would be obligated to release the sources of the GPL-licensed part.
  • 2
    @irene at least for companies, windows on workstations are easier, but if you are building software that should run under linux it either required a separate testing machine or virtual.

    Also with integration like this you can easily run programs from both platforms side by side.
  • 0
    @Voxera so it would be an Enterprise-only feature then?
  • 0
    Took them long enough
  • 0
    I like it. Because others said Linux greatly helps a developer but I am not ready to permanently move away from Windows as I am still a student and I use it for a lot of other things as well
  • 0
    @kenogo that's true, and for WSL 2 they're going a new route with a complete Linux kernel. Pretty interesting stuff Microsoft is doing nowadays.
  • 0
    @redman You sir got the right point!
  • 2
    @irene as mentioned earlier, helping developers to test their code on other systems. And of course it is welcomed for docker containers too. Not to mention the linux libs which are not ported to windows but researchers might need... So yeah, i think it is a useful feature, but we will see if it will be released
    (shit i forgot to mention that i use linux, and don't like microsoft, but it is still a welcomed feature)
  • 2
    @figoore testing on a core inside windows != testing on an actual linux.
  • 0
    @irene hear hear!
  • 5
    To clarify:

    The translation layer has many (although mostly tiny) issues, which the Microsoft devs can not fix.

    WSL2 will no longer use a translation layer. Instead a micro-hypervisor is used to run a highly customized LTS kernel (4.19.x?) which resolves all those issues.

    As a side-effect IO will become alot faster!

    Windows itself neither needs nor uses the Linux kernel.
  • 1
    @irene as @Voxera said. I rely on Windows, but I prefer Linux for certain tasks. If there was a way to avoid dual-boot and VM I’d have Windows as a main OS and use Linux from within. I’m sure I’m not alone, so this is a clever move from Microsoft.
  • 1
    Exactly what @Yamakuzure said, as far as I know the Linux kernel was never meant to replace Windows kernel, but I have a feeling Windows is now going towards becoming the all in one system that will run software regardless of which OS it was written for ...
  • 1
    @620hun Exactly! I think there are plenty of developers share this attitude. Not to mention that there are a lot of domains where windows is the only accepted OS by the sysadmins, and this might make it more comfortable for linux heads :)
  • 1
    @gitpush except software for Mac
  • 0
    @irene But I would love to have XCode on Windows T_T :p
  • -1
    @gitpush are you a heretic? 😱
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  • 0
    @Krokoklemme it would be more like Lindows, cauze it's in Windows
  • 0
    @irene XD XD No one knows :P
  • 0
    Might aswell just replace the NT kernel lol
  • 0
    @AliancerS i guess you didn't read alice's comment
  • 1
    @irene not really, it will be part of the normal windows but I expect many hobby devs targeting linux either run linux all the way or don’t bother with local test ;)

    But who knows.

    https://devblogs.microsoft.com/comm...
  • 0
    @Krokoklemme I have read it, why ? ^^
  • 1
    @Krokoklemme oh, hell ya. Sorry didn't saw that were referring to something else. Hehehe
  • 0
    @kenogo This should put windows docker performance ahead of OS X atleast :)
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