After hard learning for a while I've passed Microsoft's C# exam.
And they just gave me this. Shit. Only. No certificate.

Certifications dont mean shite

@Codex404 out of curiousity, could you elaborate?

@alexbrooklyn as developer to developer no one cares about those certifications. To be honest the only devs I know who like to have certificates like this don't know anything, have no actual thinking power but do have certificates.

For the hiring process I would never want to work for a company who hires without any conversation with the devs. All my hiring processes have been with devs only, and again devs dont care about certificates.

@Codex404 Thanks!

What version of C# (and by extension what flavor/version of .net)?
What architecture was the software?

I'm sure those Microsoft support scams put in more effort to designing stuff that looks original.

@Codex404 unless it's a niche area of expertise... that's where I'm starting to find Certs matter.

The general "I can use language x" dont mean a lot if anything.

So you studied for a jpeg ?

@C0D4 that is true indeed, although experience in such an area means way more than a certificate.

@Codex404 Agree with everything, hiring must have actual interviews, but a dev without any work experience has to rely on certs and projects, don't they. So certs are pretty important ✌️

@phreakyphoenix a "dev without experience" does have experience otherwise you are not a dev. You can't expect to get hired if you have never written a line of code but have certifications.

@Codex404 I have written thousands of lines of code, but I haven't worked in a company, that's what I meant by no experience.

@phreakyphoenix I'm a dev without certs - seriously not even one to say I finished school.

Yes they are important out of high school / uni (you have compeition and aren't expected to have x years of dev behind you), and yes they are important if you go into a very niche area that expects you to be certified.

But otherwise, not really - they just give something for HR folk to look at and tick a box, any company worth a grain of salt has devs hire devs which means those tick boxes are usually no longer essential and become nice to haves.

This is why you will see "degree / experience" in job requirements.

@phreakyphoenix that is still experience. More than a certificate in a language can ever give you.

The reason certificates are useless are because you can just buy them. I got an Database Design certificate and SQL certificate before I had ever written a single line of server code. Back then I only had experience with Javascript, never touched a database. Oracle is just handing them out to anyone they see.

At the moment they do harm to my resume instead of improving it.