Is the office dead in the dev world? Does everyone prefer to work remote from home, coffee shops or Coworking spaces? Or is there still value in working as a team irl, but modern office culture is killing it?

There is the value. For example scrum teams should be working closely together, like in the same room.
Not to mention, when you have kids, working from home is not an option. I go to the office to get some rest ;-)

@mt3o I agree, especially with kids at home myself.

I’m seeing quite a few devs in my local community working on scrum teams remotely. I keep wondering how they whiteboard together. I feel crippled without a whiteboard, but maybe it’s old technology now, lol.

Working from home sucks donkey's balls

Real offices get real work done (ok, too much exaggeration)

The office is still very much alive unless you can provide sources that says otherwise. And no, Meduim articles with titles like "how I learned to love working from home" doesn't represent a trend

I had a ceo tell me that devs only want to work remotely now. Thanks everyone, I was having a mental crisis thinking I’m the only one left that wants to work in an office.

@inaba I didn’t mean to sound like a clickbaitey headline. I was genuinely curious because I had a ceo in my local community tell me they can’t find devs that want to work in the office, even with their special perks like free lunch. I like working in an office.

@lindsatron You should always be vary when people are vague like that. Like this "a CEO" could have had a position open that no one wanted to apply to and the two people that did apply said they wanted to work from home, just as an example

I prefer offices if I have people around that I can ask for help if somethingoes wrong and it's a project-specific issze.

Commuting makes me want to stab someone in the eye

@torpkev yeah, commuting is a huge time waster. At least you can listen to a podcast or audiobooks, or actually read something if your not driving.

@mt3o yeah I used to do that, been working from home the past 9 years though.. much less stressful

@lindsatron you know, I used to prefer working from home, but after some time the project complexity forced me to work closely with other people. If your independent and no one depends on you - feel free to work from home. And be easy to be replaced by someone.

I prefer work in the office, easier to communicate, friends, and more focused.
But the commute... especially in my country..ugh

I am productive as fuck in coffee shops... headphones in and no distractions for several hours of sweet sweet task smashing.

@lindsatron jamboards and other collaborative tools simulate the kind of interactions that take place on the whiteboard.

@lindsatron whiteboard is still used today, though I prefer working from the office as well (23 year old). To me a whiteboard is more important then a computer.

To clarify, I do like the possibility to work from home, but using it more than twice a year rarely happens.

I'm currently reading a book called Quiet by Susan Cain. It's mostly about introverts and how the "team work culture" is fucking them/us up.
And it quotes a lot of studies that say working alone is way more productive. Even for things like brainstorming. An open office is better for social interactions and asking your coworkers for help. But it is way worse for productivity and quality of work. Home office might also not be great because there are probably a lot of distractions.

@Lythenas do those studies talk about long term productivity and differences between jobs?

@Codex404 it's always more complicated than the studies make it look and I haven't looked at them myself. That is just what the book sais. But the author is referencing every study she talks about so I might take a look at some.

The book also sais brainstorming via online tools is more productive than in personal meetings. It also talks about that our perception is influenced by what others in a meeting say. Not just what we think about a topic but actually how we look at it.

I also have a girlfriend now so my productive interruption free home environment no longer exists. I fucking hate that.

@Lythenas until the last sentence of you where she was saying that snow is white I disagreed with her (studies).

@irene I know right. I fed her once and she never left...

In the office I'm less likely to procrastinate by watching TV, drinking beer, masturbating, or getting up stupidly late. I also get to see other human beings. It's good to have the flexibility sometimes, but I wouldn't want to work from home exclusively.