Thanks to you guys Im scared to use PHP now..

don't worry
Use laravel and everything is fine

To be honest. Im learning laravel right now. I honestly dont know how poeple can live without frameworks like this.

After learning Laravel I won't make any new php projects without it

Slack. Facebook. Wikipedia. Baidu. Box.

Don't worry, there's always Hack & HHVM.

PHP is not as bad as some claim. The language as grown and matured plenty. Just start away from some projects that don't use current standards, and keep to oop structures, and you will be fine. Just remember to stay away from poorly coded projects like WordPress.

Php is great

If PHP would start using dot notation I'd jump over there in an instant. I know, I'm one lazy cow 😁😁 #DotsNotArrows

As a btw: Groovy is a wonderful alternative to dynamic languages like PHP on the JVM. I've been learning it all week and my mind is blown with every page turn.

You can do great things with PHP and other languages.

Why so many Laravel recommendations? You don't need it to have a good PHP codebase at all... Hell, you don't need any frameworks to write good PHP.

@Zaphod65 hell, it makes it much easier/more comfortable

I remember this famous example from the php source code (probably fixed by now):

int size;

size = EXPR;

if (size > INT_MAX || size <= 0) {
return NULL;
}

I'd like to comment that, but it's just too surreal for words.

I don't really care anymore if php is good or bad. My clients have paid me a lot of money to use it. I can console myself with my cash in the bank.

Symfony aint bad either. Language bashing is usually a thing juniors do anyways, you kinda grow out of it once you realize nothing will ever ne perfect and tooling+ecosystem is more important than the bad parts of a language.