No end to the saga. We neither exchanged nor will be completing on Monday/Tuesday. Ended up losing removal so unsure when will be able to complete.

At this point I just think someone kill me that might be better. Or give me some sedative and don't wake me up until this ordeal has finished.

@nibor trust me I know this. The flat we are selling is leasehold. The management co took over 8 weeks to produce the seller's pack even after paying £240 "admin fees".

Almost ever time I heard from my lead "let's do the basic quick fix as business need it now and we will refactor/improve later stage"; the later stage has never arrived. By the time the said "later stage" comes the business now need the second part quickly and then the third and so on. Or worse second feature gets put on back burner cause business now needs something completely different and refactoring is all forgotten.

Once in a while this happens it would probably be ok or especially for critical bugs. If this happens frequently then it means either you as a lead or product owner including the team are not doing good job of planning features to include proper implementation time.

Not sure how far I would go in arguing against it as I haven't come across such situations many times but I can see the other side of the argument.

At the current company I can say apart from second point all others are more or less present. In terms of code quality it is over a decade old company with a few acquisitions and take overs so there is bad code in some untouched areas. However there is certainly process for new code and proper reviews so not complaining that much.

Wait what??? Is this for real?

Not current but previous company. It was "cloud native"

Those fuckers' product was as far away from cloud native as i could remember. The fuckin applications ran on monolith webservers like weblogic and they had no service discovery/fail-over mechanism for half the service communication instead they stored urls of services in oracle database (outsourced to datapipe) instead and called themselves cloud native because some clever ass "devops" guy wrote a template of ec2 instances for each service. anytime there was a need to scale up or down a single service it would take them at least 2-3 days as they would need to update the list of urls for specific service in db (no reverse proxy or loadbalancer) and restart every other service because guess what each service cached the urls from database that couldn't be invalidated or refreshed.

And despite all this they never stopped boasting about their cloud native product in internal townhalls and linkedin posts and what not.

Unless you are PA to someone arranging meetings that you are not going to attend is the most pointless thing I might have heard of.
Especially for PM that just feels like wanting to look busy and control people. I would start to decline certain meetings with suggestion that we will setup the meeting ourselves and invite you as optional.

Had similar experience in my previous job. Standup sort of became a place to discuss anything and everything for 30-45 minutes.

After raising this in a couple of retrospective we proactively and to an extent aggressively started to cut off detailed conversations. One thing specifically helped is enforcing the format of going around the table with 1-2 sentences of what did everyone do yesterday / what will they do today kind of update ? At the end ask if anyone has a query / problem. If it can't be answered in one sentence direct them to have direct call with relevant 2-3 people after stand up.

Soon the standups came to a sane 15-20 mins

I never understand people who request a meeting and then not take the initiative to either book themselves or at least suggest what time works for them for me to decide.

I have learnt to simply reply with "my calendar is up to date for availability, please feel free to book a time that works with all of us".

@Demolishun it was a text query in the email so all she had to do was copy and paste

Most of the components migrated to 8 just in last couple of months. But still have two on java 7. In fact one of them was released today being compiled on 7 🤐. On the other hand actually using java 8 features is very slow in the team 😑