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>doesn't understand/not comfortable with C++
>calls it stupid
>COMPARES UNFAVORABLY TO PHP??!
Time to get triggered af. -
@Marl3x if you don't need performance, absolute control over every aspect of the program and its execution, and small compiled size (for embedded, for example) then you don't need C++. If you want any of the above then you do.
It's scary and complex because it doesn't hide anything from you, and has a pretty powerful template system. -
@Marl3x not saying that C isn't a good thing, but C++'s more advanced features do come in handy. Like smart pointers. Or compile time evaluation. You can easily write a good, readable, and performant C++ program.
And the object orientation comes in handy for dealing with something that manipulates a ton of data, like a game or a raytracing engine.
I just find C++ a lot more maintainable and convenient than C, because of OOP, STL, and Boost. -
Marl3x27796y@RememberMe I don't see C++ in anything else than VERY performance reliant and complex systems, like- as you said- engines or the like. But anything else where I need something low level I would prefer C. I've seen the Boost thingy once when searching the internet and I find the syntax gruesome.
When I programmed my Arduino I used C++ without knowing it. I just used C and classes from C++ and thats all I needed. -
Did you know php compiles down to C++, so that comparing the two is like comparing a car to an engine.
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@Marl3x well I'll admit that for all its utility, Boost can get a bit hairy, yeah, especially the more template dependant libraries like Hana. But that's also because Boost pushes C++ to its limits.
Hmm, fair enough on using C for low level stuff. I will say though that you can switch off a lot of library dependencies and use template magic to write performant and bugfree code which compiles down to a pretty damn small size for embedded controllers. I did a lot of that for robotics in uni, it was way more convenient that doing everything in embedded C. But, to each his own.
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