So fucking happy that I am the only one at my company that does not have a Huawei phone

@irene

Basically this:

https://androidcentral.com/huawei-l...

+ it seems that it will affect updates delivered from Google Play too

@irene Trump signed an order to ban them in the US, so Google revoked their license yesterday which means:
All their new phones will not be able to use Google Services but only the AOSP copy of Android

Existing phones will not be upgradable because the license is revoked => They cannot include Play store, Gmail ..etc in their updates

@Linux that’s so creepy... I was going to buy a huawei ._. I got an iPhone instead... but WTF?! Internet and technology must be international! Not a thing of a pseudopolitic :/

@ElizadeathRaven Well, at least it'll be a solution for people that don't want anything Google related on their phone :D

This is good news for Huawei and its users I think. They will be less tracked by the Uncle Google, and will have faster phones with less hw sources 😀
If it happens in this way, I may have an Android phone someday, too 🥳

Android fork incoming...

If this doesn't spur Chinese government investment in technology then nothing will.

@Jilano Android is already Google-related.

The people hurt most by this decision is the US I think. Huawei has their own store for the chinese.
China is probably less dependent on the USA than the USA needs China.

I really need to see what Ive to vote next European elections. We surely need to take distance from the USA as soon as possible.

I have a Huawei Nova (chinese distro) works just fine, its slow, because i run a shitload of things at the same time but the HW is ..wow

for some reason I think that blond asshole is making a big mistake (from his perspective) because this will force Huawei to build tools and plan scenarios how to act more independently from Google services and have alternatives for mainstream apps originated from the USA which (if they do it right) will eventually after a few years give them a big advantage over a lot of brands (not that they need it at this point, they are already huge lol)

and one more thing (and I KNOW sentences starting with "Im not a fan of conspiracies, but" never end well, but :D hear me out)

Im not a fan of conspiracies, but for a European, looking at this childish trade war between these two, it looks like the blond idiot wants to protect the iFruit brand, because it's already starts to bleed out because of his fatal mistakes from last years.

I don't have a chinese phone, I have a chinese router, so am probably being spied as we speak, I don't care though. I have such a mundane life that I do genuinely feel sorry for the algorithm that has to spend it's electronic life monitoring me.

You should be happy but for other reasons than the current news

@irene how much of their economy is based on export? If that went away within a few weeks they would feel that. So not completely independent.

@irene thats true, thats why the usa is gonna suffer way more.

Just root it, there will be a huge community to port it to the phone..

@irene That is true, but I'm curious as to what it means exactly for people outside of China.

@leduyquang753 While you are right, China will most probably do something about and change lots of things after said decision.

This already happened in the past to ZTE, which was nearly bankrupt as a result.

It's a heavy blow to Huawei, though it is not automatically a death sentence since their Chinese phones don't rely on Google Play Services.

@vane huawei is still allowed to use android, but they are prohibited from using the google services, a fork wouldn't fix that

Nothing bad will happen to already stockef/sold phones. New model though...

Can I copy&past some google service or some android app and sell it to Huawei and get rich?

@nett18 I didn’t wrote Huawei should fork Android I just wrote it’s incoming 🙂

The most who will suffer from this is Android community itself.

@vane Honestly I'm not so sure. Most people will be happy with Facebook and the likes presintalled, and the tech savvy already know where to get their apps. The rest might complain (which isn't that unusual in these dire times anyway).

All in all, I'm curious as to what will happen exactly.

@Jilano probably not much until USA move EU to their cloud companies

@irene no, we also have Motorola, ZTE, etc etc ...or what do you mean?

@irene that’s a lie... well, at least where I live

@irene or... that guy is pessimist AF

@ElizadeathRaven pretty much what I thought about it too. And even the idea of Huawei spying - they're a brand, they've got a ton of markets that they target. I mean I can only judge by the Nexus 6P which was a total piece of shit that should've never hit the market, but it is an excellent device to do development and particularly learn development on to this day. Meanwhile Mediatek devices consistently don't release kernel source and thereby violate GPL. Why weren't they the ones to get banned? Why was it a smartphone maker and not a chip manufacturer that has a track record of poor practices and strong suspicion of NDA contracts with phone makers? Politics doesn't make sense to me.

*Memory of Zuck Congress hearing intensifies*

@irene you know russian?

@irene I'd imagined that you were German, with that username

@irene yeah?

@nett18

Irene is actually a meat popsicle.

@irene I'm so confused, hahahaha😂

Update: The US allows some trades with Huawei again. Google can keep delivering android updates and networkdevices from Huawei can be delivered to the customer.

So Huawei is spying but the US was suffering so they will partially allow the spying?

@Codex404

kek

@Codex404 what about the services?

@nett18 services?

@Codex404 play store, and other google services?

@nett18 thats the license they are giving...

Android is opensource and free to use for anyone. Google licenses their store etc.

imho a non issue, considering most if not all of them are flashable.

@irene locked* and no longer opens them by request