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@jurion AC at work, when it works but not at home, sadly I can't live at work.
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C0D4681385yI survived the angry summer in Australia, you'll be fine - just buy a pool and jump in, those small inflatable ones count too.
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Both Sydney and Hobart recorded their hottest temperatures on record in January 2013.
Sydney beat the January 1939 record of 45.3 °C (113.5 °F), recording 45.8 °C (114.4 °F) on 18 January 2013
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@C0D4 dude them temperatures would finish me off, respect though for surviving that shit.
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C0D4681385y@DevNotFretPet i don't know how I didn't melt to a puddle during that - never want to experience that again.
But all I can say is stay well hydrated and actually do the pool thing 😏
Sadly, if the wildlife don't kill you or the people fail at it too, the weather will give it a go in Australia.
For example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
This was real. -
@VaderNT in the UK our temperatures are mainly in single figures, so other than in work places, it's very uncommon.
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@VaderNT
1. Normally in northern and central Europe it only gets hotter than 35c/95 f for 5 days or so. Summer is only from June to August. So AC is a luxury.
2. Building restrictions. Here in Switzerland you've got to have a permit. For environmental reasons (power consumption) and esthetics as those mini split ac outdoor units are loud and ugly. They have to be placed on the roof. This makes it even more expensive. Businesses do get the permit more easily.
3. In Southern Italy, Spain, Bulgaria AC is more common as it's probably less regulated. -
@VaderNT its uncommon in the northern parts as it used to be a complete waste of money. It almost never got warm enough to make them useful. Good insulation and proper heating used to be the thing that ensured our homes had the correct temperature.
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I know one thing, this climate change shit is for real, the earth if definitely heating up 🌎🔥🙏
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@jurion 10 years ago my city has voted yes to the the goal of becoming more energy efficient. The so called "2000 Watts Society" sets the goal to reduce the energy consumption from 6000 Watts per citicen to 2000 watts per day and increase renewable energy mix up to 75%.
The average mini split ac consumes 1700 Watts per hour. If you run the ac for 8 hours that's 13’600 watts for the AC alone. So I totally understand why my city likes to make it more difficult to get an AC to limit the amount of those power hungry appliances.
In North America the power consumption per capita and day is 12'000 Watts. As energy is cheap there is no incentive to act more responsible. So i totally get why you wrote "If you pay for the electricity how's that anybodys busines".
But we all ought to reach those Paris Climate Daccord goals. So it's everybodys busines really. 🙂 -
Soooo hot! I just ate some watermelon... it was really really good. I was just painting a room in this heat too. So beat!
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@heyheni I cannot follow you. Watt is a measurement of work, not energy. Did you mean 2.000 Watt hours per day? That would be a very ambigious purpose.
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@heyheni I don't think you got the units right. 1 W = 1 J/s. If you integrate over time, you get Joules, which is the unit of entry. Sometimes it's also convenient and common to use the weird unit kWh, where you effectively cancel out the time in seconds by multiplying with hours.
@jurion that part about esthetics might only apply to Switzerland, I've never heard of that. -
Wabby10345y26c here already at 07:50.
Forecast 33c. Fortunately I have aircon @ work so going in ‘early’ to ‘catch up’. -
@electrineer I know, but I didn't want to confuse him more than necessary. Wh or kWh is what he probably meant and know.
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Oh, no, I am wrong. He does indeed mean 2000 Watt, but not "per day" but in average.
Have a look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
That's much more realistic. -
VaderNT16345y@DevNotFretPet @heyheni @ItsNotMyFault
Alright, I didn't take the colder parts of Europe into account and was understanding the original message along the lines of "AC is uncommon in Europe even where it's fucking hot". I mean, why would you discuss AC in places where it's completely irrelevant. I stand corrected, AC is uncommon in Europe as a whole. -
@jurion the 'how is my consumption anyone's business' is kinda what brought us the whole climate change mess.
You're on a planet with a large but finite amount of resources and a very complex system of airflow, temperature regulation, ... . If you use your resources irresponsibly you'll eventually run out. And if using said resources influences said complex systems, you'll be even further from home. -
@rutee07 on the upside, heat motivates you to put on the black mini, so I'd consider that when taking you out.
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@jurion had you read the link provided by @Benedikt, you'd know that the 2 kW target was for the whole society.
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y says "I won't do anything until x does"
x says "I won't do anything until y does"
And that's how nothing happens to stop global warming. -
@jurion if 5% develop the technology and show that it's possible, it will be easier for others to jump in.
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@jurion
That's the thing, they think the same way you do.
As for industries, no matter how you look at it, at one point or another you're being the customer. Even if it's indirectly (eg. government), people are always the end customer if you go down the chain far enough. And if people want to (over)consume companies will make sure they can, to get those sweet profits.
I'm not saying companies will do the right thing on their own accord (let's be real for a sec, unless governments tell them to, they won't do jack shit). But if enough people change their way of living to be more sustainable eventually governments will follow. Industry will follow the rules of supply and demand, and whatever rule a government will punish them hard enough for not following.
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