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@Berkmann18 Eh, a couple years ago it was the first google result for "how to I control my linux from windows"
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@N00bPancakes update notifications should be as small and non-intrusive as possible. For example, Insomnia does it very well. It's just a small rectangle on the lower right corner, and I can chose to ignore it without having to click an extra close button or being locked out of main window focus.
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@N00bPancakes oh and I forgot to mention... IT ONLY POPS UP WHEN I OPEN INSOMNIA, NOT WHEN I'M NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT FOR FUCKS SAKE
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@C0D4 I remember him saying that, and honestly I can't argue with it.
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That update popups are a symptom of you using a distribution without a proper package manager. Without a package manager, updates have to be handled by every application themselves and a sure way to actually get users to know about updates is the common reminder popup.
Switch to a distribution featuring a proper package manager and software repositories containing the applications you need. -
@Oktokolo Windows 10
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@SparkyTD
I don't think, Windows 10 has a proper package manager yet.
But as Microsoft is transitioning from being a dev company to a pure service provider, maybe they will put their GUI theme on top of some Linux distribution and that way inherit a proper package manager soon... -
@Oktokolo ESR wrote something like that recently, and with cost vs. profit, it makes a lot of sense for MS to phase Windows out. In fact, they have been doing so for 5 years already.
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@C0D4
Wow. But why do they reinvent their own package manager, when their OS will finally end up being just another theme for GNOME or KDE anyway?
Browsers work well on Linux and a browser is all you need to access the cloud... -
@Oktokolo I think they're trying to push back on Linux adoption, and cater for devs inside windows.
Who knows, maybe the current directors see it as a financial gain somehow.
stranger things have known to Happ.... no, no they haven't 😅 -
@Oktokolo Chocolatey is pretty decent for a FOSS offering.
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@Oktokolo Microsofts offering (win-get) is actually also gathering steam. Unfortunately their installers are entirely YAML based so leave no scope for handling complex installer scenarios.
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@kwilliams
As YAML is designed for tree structures, i really wonder, what you think hinders its suitability for defining complex installer scenarios.
YAML fun facts:
- Most JSON strings are also valid YAML.
- YAML supports subtree references. So you can define stuff once and include it on multiple locations in the same document. -
@Oktokolo because the YAML syntax only allows you to define a download location, checksum and installer parameters. And only supports a limited number of installers.
Chocolatey allows the same auto installers but also custom code like downloading stand alone executables and installing as tools. -
@kwilliams
You are mixing up generic data formats like YAML, JSON and XML with what some devs use them for.
You can model arbitrarily complex configurations in all three languages. Microsoft just doesn't.
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I wasnt mixing up anything. I said the Microsoft YAML based manifest style was hamstringing uptake due to its narrow support set.
I know YAML has nothing to do with how the manifests are parsed, it just highlights the inflexibility of a single, text based manifest compared with the Chocolatey NuGet package style approach.
Hey everyone,
First off, a Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates, happy holidays to everyone, and happy ...
When 1 update isn't enough
It should be FUCKING ILLEGAL to show intrusive popups on the web AND on the desktop. The fucking moron 'developers' who do this type of crap should be fined in the $M range and then banned from using a fucking computer ever again.
It's one fucking thing when a crappy program shows an intrusive update popup when you open it (see notepad++, FileZilla and more), but when I am not even using your fucking malware, but you still shove an update popup in my face while I'm working is just on the next fucking level.
There should be a law that makes this kind of retarded bullshit illegal....
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