YouTube Ads be like

I resemble both sides of that ad...

It’s like everyone get a participation title nowadays.

Oh, you’re straight from college and wanna work for us? Well done, here, you’re a senior now.

I hate these Ads.

But it's the flow of capitalism I guess.

Everything's faster, everything's worse.

Proper education / teaching by the company is rare.

And a lot of complaints here on devRant are regarding the "management wants me to punish for doing thinks correctly in an realistic timeframe that they think is wrong - as it takes too long"....

I guess this has become standard and will be standard till idiocracy becomes unbearable

Oh damn I get these ads all the time! Hi I’m a high school English teacher who had zero experience and after 4 months I learned to code with Skybridge Tech Academy and now I’m making 500k a year as a senior full stack developer for a major banking firm. It’s easy, anyone can do it! We’re going to make the people who worked their asses off to become proficient feel shitty about themselves

There are ads on youtube? Haven't seen any for years :P

@lamka02sk
So how do you know about "RAID: Shadow Legends" and "NordVPN" then?

@Oktokolo Honestly, I don't really know what RAID (the game) is. I know it is a game with a big controversy around it and that's all.
NordVPN? I actually used that shit a few years ago before they went crazy and sposored everything everywhere. Their services were pretty shit anyway.

But to answer your indirect question about avoiding sponsorships in videos - there is SponsorBlock extension which works great in about 90% of cases. It is also integrated into Vanced on Android. According to the counter in extension, in 10 months it saved me from watching more than 11 hours of sponsorships.

@lamka02sk
Nice plugin. Ultra-low coverage (more like 10% instead of 90%) - but every sponsor skip counts...

You're senior if you can tell a user the feature they want is good but you need more time to make it better...for all users.

And then make them feel good about not doing the thing they asked for "right now".

@Oktokolo I wish there was a service that we could sign up to to create an explicit list of shit we're interested in, and then sponsors could just pull from *that* list to give us adverts.

We fill out 5-10 things, e.x. amazon wishlist and agree not to block ads and advertisers agree to only pull from that list (maybe with 1 in 100 ads being an ad slot for something not on the list, fucking premium slots for new products or services).

99% what you do want, and the other 1% is new things you weren't aware of.

@Wisecrack that’s a great idea

@TeachMeCode Well thank ya. Us lunatics occasionally have some good ones. Dime a dozen though. Executing on an idea and selling it are what matters.

And gobs of money to make it happen.

Youtube ad settings is horrible when it comes to figuring you out. I just checked my settings for YouTube ad settings and it assumes I’m fluent in both English and Italian, bc I have an Italian last name. My gmail account includes my italian last name which is interesting...

If I replace my last name with Gonzalez in my gmail address, would YouTube, google or whatever the fuck is spying on me assume my other language is Spanish instead?

I’m glad that I have no idea wtf you are talking about. 😄
I can’t live without ad blockers.

In only 3 weeks you can get brainwashed into thinking that you are competent fullstack. You might trick recruiter but no one would want to deal with your stupidity.

Read book about Mastery and aprreatiate how much you have to work to become master

++ this comment if you F this guy

@Wisecrack
The main problem with such a service would be, that ad networks would just use it in addition to what they do now. They would definitely not abandon their spyware. It would basically just be yet another bullet point on the slides tehy show their customers.

Also: I am not interested in buying stuff. Even when i happened to have "disposable" money, i really didn't consume much more than before.
If an advertiser could see all my offline purchases (there aren't any online purchases in the last three months), i would totally look like hermit to him as i basically just buy food and toilet paper having a reasonable price-quality-ratio - and almost all of it is noname brands.
So how to select ads for someone like me? Of course, they would just try to show me what they are currently trying to show me: Random ads selected by their pseudo-bigdata bullshit using non-existing data.

@Lensflare
So you don't see sponsoring and product placements in videos and also don't see sponsored articles disguised as "content" in search results?

@Oktokolo those Brands could still advertise to you in the relevant category, in this case toilet paper. Think about it this way, if the current market is tailored to " buy now." Then once it gets competitive enough the next big Market will be the long tail: people who want to buy something but not right now maybe because they don't have the money or because they have other priorities. I'm sure if you think about it you can think of things that you looked at and said this would be nice to have, or maybe in the future when I have the money and can afford to purchase it. That's the long tail. The wish-list crowd. Because what's better than creating a need? Being an Advertiser with a product and knowing the customer you're targeting ALREADY WANTS your kind of product.

Even in customer categories with low basket values, this is *very* valuable information. Put it this way if word-of-mouth is the ultimate form of ad, knowing that someone wants to buy your product comes 2nd.

To put it in perspective the model is actually already proven: through Amazon Wish lists, and steam wish lists. In fact it's relied on so heavily by Developers on Steam that they use it to predict their first day or first week sales.

@Wisecrack
But advertising the long tail is really hard. Sure, you can advertise brands. I know Coka-Cola as everyone else. But i never buy it.
And the remainder of the long tail is the one-time needs that may pop up at random. And you just can't catch the people actually researching their shit before they buy it, with the sort of ads that are currently used.
Nowadays its all about emotion. And such ads work fine on people who have shopping as a hobby. But targeting tech people with ads missing any tech info is just wasting money.

The thing is: Would ads actually be informative - i bet, they wouldn't be as annoying anymore.

So yes, advertising the long tail of tech people's needs could maybe work - but not with the style of ads, that are exclusively in use now. And tech people aren't the mainstream, so the ad industry doesn't actually care.

@Oktokolo "But advertising the long tail is really hard. And the remainder of the long tail is the one-time needs that may pop up at random. And you just can't catch the people actually researching their shit before they buy it, with the sort of ads that are currently used."

And here you have identified the *precise* problem to be solved.

Even solving 1 of these can be worth it.

For example when I was in retail, every day there would be at least 1 instance of a long line where someone walked out. With a basket value of $12, and roughly 20,000 stores, a single walk
out per day per store added up to $87.6 million a year in lost sales, just shy of a billion over a decade. Thats not something to blink at. Almost entirely because they needed just 5% more employee hours (with 2-3 on shift), and needed to fix issues with their terminals going down.

You know what I learned? Metrics are everythings. Less metrics = lost cash.

you've already defined the problems to be solved. Now what?

@Wisecrack
Well, the actual problem with the ad industry is, that it is wasting resources while providing a net-negative benefit to humanity.

So i would advise in completely terminating the entire industry - just because we only got one earth.
Less bullshit jobs are better for everyone (even for the former bullshit job employees - if we manage to get to the post-work-to-live society).

But yes, supermarkets should obviously open more lines when existing lines grow.

@Oktokolo Thats spot on!

I see the ad industry as a second-hand solution to a broader problem: knowing people's needs/demands in real time. "Honest advertising" is probably a misnomer, but I think if such a thing existed it'd look like this: focusing on *knowing and meeting* existing needs, and *not* creating new ones.

We have a just-in-time economy.

Why don't we have just-in-time metrics?

If better resource allocation leads to less waste, pollution, and poverty, and people know their own needs the best, then giving companies and people the tools to research and express those needs in real time would go a long way to solving those problems: less waste, pollution, and poverty.

Bad metrics lead to overdemand which leads to higher costs than need to be. Or underdemand, which means production isnt being met, so market needs arent being met.
Bad metrics mean the wrong industries are invested in and the wrong types of products are made, wasting natural resources.

We need better tools.

@Wisecrack
There is one thing i learned from playing Factorio: There is nothing wrong with having a permanent stock (there are only non-perishables in Factorio, but freezing tech exists).

So you don't actually need realtime data. Basically, you just need to keep the buffers nearly half-filled all the time. When they lose more than is comming in, you need to increase production. When they are filling up, you need less production.

But here is the catch: Greed and anxiety kill such systems. Greed and scarcity anxiety leads to people hoarding stuff, so demand is inflated orders of magnitude above actually needed production levels - creating scarcity where normally wouldn't be any.
That is, what really killed planned economy and i don't think, that there really is a solution for that.

@Oktokolo first, factorio is awesome. You do belts or Logistics robots? Personally I never cared for Logistics. Second how does a planned economy deal with the information problem? The problem of knowing everyone's needs better than the individuals themselves or at least as good as thing visuals?

@Wisecrack
Belts and trains.

And you really don't need to know better than the people, what they need. Stuff gets produced and stored in a buffer at the production site. It then gets distributed to regional stores (today, they are called markets) and is stored there in the local buffer. People go to the local store (or get stuff delivered from it) and get the stuff they need.
When a local buffer gets empty, you refill it from a production buffer. When a production buffer gets empty, production has to increase. When a production buffer gets full, production has to decrease.
Add extra storage between production and local distribution for extra stability where needed (like for goods which really may never go out of stock even when there is a sudden demand spike).

As already written, there is the catch of hoarding (and black markets resulting from it). So even when production and distribution are fine, you still need to rate limit how much the individual may take from local buffers...

@Oktokolo I'll accept it as long as workers are allowed to occasionally decide what gets made and sent to market.

Solves the problem of the state saying "abc idea is stupid" (because governments are often out of touch), and then something people absolutely want doesn't get made.

@Wisecrack
Ah yes, another reason planned economy absolutely doesn't work in real life: The government contains that greedy and anxious humans too...

The point was, that it could be self-regulating without having to adhere to Orwell's well-written tutorial on how to make the panopticon real for everyone... as long as there are no saboteurs.

There actually isn't any minimum tech level requirement. It most likely even was the economic model used by humans in the stone age - it is still used by some indigenous groups today.
The only reason, it doesn't work for larger groups is the extreme sensitivity to saboteurs - which are more likely to exist in larger groups.

The problem is (as usual) an entirely social one.

@Oktokolo "The only reason, it doesn't work for larger groups is the extreme sensitivity to saboteurs - which are more likely to exist in larger groups."

Acknowledging the problem doesn't solve it, but does get you half way. Keep going.

@Wisecrack
I don't think, that the problem is solvable yet as you can't fix humans.

@Oktokolo "I don't think, that the problem is solvable yet as you can't fix humans."

Then there is no hope, and this is an exercise in futility. Then we are stuck with the least *bad* option, free markets.

@Wisecrack
Yes, we are doomed.