A Java Development vacancy I came across today:

Requirements:

Must:

° Appropriate Education
° Work Experience with Java/Javascript knowledge, at least 2 years, good understanding of OOP, patterns
° Experience with Spring, NoSQL(MongoDB)

Preferably:

° Experience with Tomcat/Jboss/Glassfish
° JDBC, JSF, JSP, JSTL, Angular, ExtJS
° HTML5, CSS3, XML, Jquery, Bootstrap, Primefaces
° Hibernate
° Git/SVN

Objective:

° Implementation of specific requirements
° Cooperation with business analytics and clarification of reuirements
° Participation in the development of application architecture and technology selection

Who are they hiring?

I missed a "q" in requirements...

Maybe they had nothing and got bored and thought "let's troll some of these poor developers".

Doesn't seem like very tough requirements... Actually quite humble...
They are looking by the looks of it a full-stack java-angular developer...

They are looking for JAVA developer. That's the whole point.

They don't at all specify what kind of Java developer they're looking for. Ever.

There was this one vacancy where they were looking for Android developers and the person had to know Swift.

This is why I'm saying people are ridiculous over here.

When they say Web Developer, expect it to be full-stack, but NEVER specified that it's the case unless you look at the requirements.

Rarely they DO specify, but it's really rare.

Also, when you say "X language Developer", the expectation is that you need to be good at that, isn't it? Why shove full-stack requirements in EVERY FUCKING dev-related job? The exceptions being C++ and C# *sometimes*, but they, like every other job, ask for so much experience that no newer programmers have a chance. And it doesn't end there. Sometimes even the INTERSHIPS ASK FOR EXPERIENCE. Let that sink in.

And it doesn't help that the pay is usually near 200$/month, 250 if you stretch it. They ask you to have 5 years' experience, have a degree in Computer Science, be a full-stack developer and pay you that much. I think it's safe to say they think of you as less than human -_-

At least it didnt say "must have at least 5 years of experience in react.js".... cause you know.... o.O

@chrisalexthomas So true xD

Rofl I wanna walk in for an interview with them for sure 😂😂😂

@BlueNutterfly you sure it's 200 and not 2000 => 2 thousands ??

@jalebiBhai I'm sure of it.

Seriously. You will be paid more then this even in Indian IT company

Than*

@jalebiBhai It might have to do with the fact that stuff is pretty cheap here, but still... 200 USD is NOT enough for a nice living. Somewhere around 500 and up is where one person can live pretty well here.

@BlueNutterfly I was assuming you are from US. Where are you from ?

@BlueNutterfly here in this country, you can live with USD200. But status of living will be terrible

@jalebiBhai Georgia, right to the South of Russia and North to Turkey.

@BlueNutterfly that's very exact ...
Never heard of it :p

@jalebiBhai Just like a lot of human population, I might add. One can't help that when it's a tiny country.

@BlueNutterfly I wonder who had not heard the name "Georgia"

I believe, if the population is less, then the country is great

Are conditions not good there ?

Economically

@jalebiBhai For people who have a bit of money saved up, it's great. Not so much for the people just starting off.

And we also joke that our economy is nonexistent.

I see, BPL is $23k there. $200 is extremely less compared to that ??

BPL = below poverty line

@jalebiBhai 200 USD = 496 GEL. One can barely live with that money. 1000 GEL and up a month is when you can have the essentials and have something left. It's better to outright buy an apartment than to rent it for long stretches of time. Most of the population has secondhand cars as they cannot really afford fresh ones and for a lot of people a car is some sort of status symbol(I don't get that). And well, there's a bad thing about our economy: An average Georgian is biologically starving, meaning they get less nutrients than needed/recommended. Bread is the only product we take more than recommended of and that's only because we love it and it's kinda cheap(even though its price has been steadily rising over the last years).

23k? I've not heard of that number before. May be my ignorance.

@BlueNutterfly I might had looked after Georgia ,USA. Hmm ... USA bpl is 23k ..Definately had to be, Georgia of US then

Come to india. It's kind of shame if you use bicycle ( except if you are not a child )

Nowadays even under 15 years of age, are driving bikes to schools

@jalebiBhai I'd better stay here. Because of the economic situation, a lot of the brighter people have left our country. In fact, a MILLION Georgians are outside of Georgia. It has resulted in shitty people having all the power. I'd better remain here and try changing things.

@BlueNutterfly a million migrated from a country of 3.6 million :p

@jalebiBhai The largest amount of population my country has had is 12 millions and it was in the 13th century AD.

Well, what can one do? People with brains feel like there are no prospects here for the future...

@BlueNutterfly lol

And here it's only increasing exponentially

Georgia is kind of a good state to me now

@jalebiBhai Well... If you had seen what amount of improvements we've had since 2000s, you'd be shocked. But still, getting employed is the biggest hurdle ever here. If one overcomes that and is a good worker, things don't suck as much.

How much does one time food cost there

@jalebiBhai It's not really expensive. One can even say food is really cheap here, compared to Europe, although childcare products can cost nearly a whole month's salary in some cases.

The trouble is that most people also have things other than food to worry about.

And it really depends on how you eat. It can be everything from less than 10-20 USD to much, much more.

@BlueNutterfly are $500/$1000 enough for one to live a good life ?

@jalebiBhai I meant to say, yes, it is.

Relocating myself to Georgia soon

@jalebiBhai Just try actually respecting the country and most people will welcome you with open arms.

@BlueNutterfly how often do you see outsiders working in US

Err...in georgia

@jalebiBhai They are certainly there. A lot of Chinese work in Chinese shops, I've seen some Africans working as Taxi drivers etc...

@BlueNutterfly so foreigners are doing what they mostly do overseas 😂

@jalebiBhai What can I say? xD

@jalebiBhai And a lot of Indians are studying at the Medical University, as (kinda) expected...

@BlueNutterfly The cost of medical education is so high here, anybody will prefer a developing european country than india

@BlueNutterfly since seats are less and applicants are high, donation takes place to get enrolled into private college. People even pay USD 100,000-150,000 in donation to private colleges just for admission. Then their tution fees is already high.

In case of govt. College, where fees is much less, you have to score good in admission test. But then there are scam in admissions. Big Scammmm ....

OO and patterns.... Javascript.... 😆
JS pattern : do whatever the fuck you come up with, preferably drunk. If it compiles, it will run.
Plot twist: It always compiles.