Imagine being on vacation and the first notification you see on your phone in the morning is from your colleague on Teams:
"Hey! Are you available for a call despite the vacation?"

Fml and fuck me for being too kind to even spend time answering his questions instead of ghosting him.

Uninstall teams from your phone.

@atheist he contacted me also on WhatsApp and via email when I didn’t answer him after 5 minutes…

@JS96 lol, that's not "are you available?" that's "I'm explicitly ignoring your vacation and intruding on your time".

Tell them no, you're on vacation.

Dude. It might not be his fault, but it's not yours either. The second a company touches my vacation it's when I hand in my resignation. It seems nothing is sacred anymore..... :(

I don’t know how your company operates but here we work by pairs e.g there’s always someone with a specific set of skills available. We also tend to document regular things we do, along with some documentation for other more technical things (god I hate writing these). That way you’re almost never disturbed out of work and even less in vacations.

It feels almost strange to me that other companies don’t operate like that.

You are very kind! But I have this equation:

teams/zoom: don’t answer. In fact, remove these apps during vacation as someone else wrote also!

an actual phone call/sms: then it is probably urgent and I usually call back/answer.

@sideshowbob76 if you're on holiday, and there's a question only you can answer, either you're not doing your job right by not teaching/documenting stuff, or you're not payed enough.

My goal is that when I leave a company, everything is well documented and usable, just productivity drops noticeably coz they lost someone that's good at their job.

Time might be your enemy of course. Teaching is so fun and something we should all do much more. Better for me, better for you, better for the team.

Uhm.

What face hugger nommed your brain away giving out your PRIVATE data to business colleagues?

Are u retarded?

Put a big fucking wall there. Otherwise you will always be the one kicked in the groin at the end.

You've two options. Don't reply, enjoy your time off, or:

"Hey! I'll take the call, but only if I can claim the day back / claim overtime for the day. Let me know when that's done. If it's not critical enough that you can get that signed off, then afraid it'll need to wait until I'm back."

Often when it's a case of *them* giving something up, not just you, they suddenly find a way to work it out themselves.

@grospataplouf godspeed :)

@IntrusionCM cmon man do we really need to insult the man?

@AlmondSauce ding ding ding! we have a winner. I was about to say something like this.

@AleCx04 In a way - yes.

I dunno how often I tried to explain interns in very nice ways that private means non business. Usually they ... Forgot at some time.

Then most of the time we land at the situation we have now.

They gave out their private data, are reachable via WhatsApp / Facebook / ... Bla.

They've made themselves perfectably exploitable and in some countries even perfect target for firing.

So yes. I'll insult them. best way to get them angry. And angry / bad stuff stays better in memory.

Cause really, for the love of god and their health / sanity, don't - no matter to whom or why - give out private stuff without a formal, signed contract defining the why and how this number may be used.

Otherwise it will always be your own ruin.

@IntrusionCM contacts you add on teams, specially if your organization set them up for you do not have access to your private phone number.

Second, I respect how you have good intentions, I just don't think that being harsh on people, especially those that you train, is necessarily a proper thing. I can get behind being harsh to upper management of people that can be complete dickwads though

@AleCx04

*sigh* yes daddy. I shouldn't be an insulting bitch because I had a bad day.

But all in all - if you have teams on your personal phone and the teams account is for business, you're doing it completely wrong.

Vacation is for regeneration and anything regarding business doesn't belong there.

So... Even if it is your business phone, you don't take it on vacation.

I'm harsh when it comes to the point of health. Because many people make the mistake despite being warned a thousand times to take this matter far too lightly.

It starts with being reachable on vacation, then comes 24/7 support, then burnout, then getting fired.

Once the foot is in the door it is very hard to close it.